Re: [TCLUG:14215] using OpenSSH

["Eric M. Hopper" <hopper@omnifarious.mn.org>]

On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 08:16:20PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Do you really believe this?  Who is they?  I believe there are many
> people who use both.  How many OpenBSD (or even NetBSD or FreeBSD)
> developers do you know to have such an opinion?  What have you based
> this opinion on?  Almost sounds to me like you jumped on the passing
> bandwagon and starting singing the chant.

	I can't name particular names.  Your post was a taste of it.  I
read posts by various BSD people, and they tend to sound condescending
and smug.  Not all BSDers are this way, just some.

	I could actually make some negative comments about Linux people
too, but I see more reasonableness and less of the negative stuff among
Linux people.  This could very well be because I know more of them.  I
could describe the attitude I see in detail, but I don't want to start
any more of a flame war than I already have.  And their attitude
irritates me less than condescending smugness.

	This is based on nothing particularily scientific, and is
certainly not a way to stereotype individual people.

	I was especially irritated because I would never take a UNIX
flavor agnostic piece of code, and cripple it into only working with one
flavor.  I can't see any good reason they did this.  I stopped using
UnixWare partly because UnixWare seemed to be going out of it's way to
make sure off-the-net code wouldn't compile on it.

> I wouldn't say that FreeBSD is not popular.  I can think of Hotmail,
> Yahoo, CDROM.com ... and there are more that I can think of right now.
> To be honest, I can not think of any Linux site as big as any of
> these.  I would be glad to here about some though.

	They use it because it's good.  A fact I do not dispute.  It's
not popular not because it isn't used, but beecause it's rarely
mentioned in the press.

	I'm not sure, but I think Amazon might be run on Linux.  Perhaps
they use Sun though, I forgot.  There was a listing somewhere of the
top-ten e-commerce sites, and I saw Linux on at least a couple.

	I'm going to stop responding now, this has gotten kind of silly
and pointless.

Have fun (if at all possible),
-- 
Its name is Public Opinion.  It is held in reverence. It settles everything.
Some think it is the voice of God.  Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet
broke a chain or freed a human soul.     ---Mark Twain
-- Eric Hopper (hopper@omnifarious.mn.org  http://omnifarious.mn.org/~hopper) --

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