Re: [TCLUG:5285] NTS4 vs. Linux study from Mindcraft.

[Christopher McKinley <root@lugh.net>]

So would I, but the damn app we use (not Notes) requires the ability to
load NLMs - hence Intel & NetWare.  As for Notes, it is a big pig on the
desktop and the server, but I don't know of anything else like it.  The
databases could be replaced by HTML very easily, but it has some
whiteboarding ability that would be difficult to replicate so that the
average luser could easily use it.


-Chris

Ben Kochie wrote:
> 
> sheesh.. if i had 35-40k for a server.. i'd get a really decked out Sun
> UE-450 or something, or even a pair of them.  you can run lotus on a Sun
> if i remember right.
> 
> Thank You,
>         Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)
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> On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Christopher McKinley wrote:
> 
> > pani@frontiernet.net wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe the benchmark would make more sense if it was run on
> > > machines that an average user would buy for that kind of an
> > > application.  How many users really have these Xeon boxes being
> > > used for web/file serving or planning to invest in one for the
> > > same purpose anyway ?
> > >
> >
> > Umm, my company has quite a few of these (2-4 Xeon) for Lotus Notes
> > (blech!), and we are looking at getting a couple at 35-40K apiece
> > (depends on disk space -- can you say 18GB UW-SCSI drives ... mmmm).  We
> > would not run NT on them, but IntraNetware (NetWare 4.x).  I keep saying
> > Linux, but noone takes me seriously.
> >
> > Anyway, what about the next TCLUG meeting?  If we can get a high speed
> > connection, we could do a pseudo-real-world study of local SMB, proxy,
> > web, and email.  I have DSL at home, and I would be willing to set
> > something up here, or bring my box to the meeting.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > > If linux beats NT on cheaper hardware, which it most certainly
> > > does, which more people can afford to buy then who cares that
> > > NT runs faster if you add 4Gigs of RAM and 10 more processors ?
> > >
> > > Aah well, I am just pissed off that I do not have one of those
> > > xeons, that is all *greeen*
> > > --
> > > sandipan
> > >
> > > Scott Dier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Heh, what about us pre-college but-going-to-be-CS-majors-next-fall? :)
> > > >
> > > > Anyways, I have peeked through the smart reseller stuff.  Pretty neato
> > > > benchmarks, but nothing like the data from the mindcraft survey.  Really,
> > > > it would be cool to set it up, hammer some machines and have a managed
> > > > port that we could hook MRTG to or something and make some graphs.
> > > > Problem is, where do we get these sweet-ass boxes? :)  I only know one
> > > > person with a dual-celeron 504.  And thats not even a xenon.  Oh well.
> > > > Even if we had a ppro system we could tell what it was like comparitevly.
> > > > (linux vs nt vs netware etc.)  I have access to NT Enterprise through a
> > > > MSDN Universal subscription. (yay!) Too bad we couldn't convince my school
> > > > district to let us conduct an experiment at school, Maple Grove Sr. High
> > > > ;( (500+ pentium win95 boxen.)   Anyways.  That sparked more of a
> > > > discussion than I expected.  And it was on-topic.  Sweet. :)  (just
> > > > digging the signal-to-noise ratio here.)
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps at the next meeting there should be a side-discussion
> > > > (after-major-stuff, i guess i dont know the format of the meetings (yet))
> > > > of interested parties to see if there is a real interest and avalibility
> > > > of hardware to do this.  Write it up as a report, and publish it to the
> > > > world at large.
> > > >
> > > > I guess this also means that I am going to start going to tclug meetings.
> > > > :)
> > >
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