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Re: Re[2]: (ASCEND) Router for ADSL
Ouch!
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 Patrick.Malone@merisel.com wrote:
> The Lucent (formally Ascend) box for this is the DSL Terminator 100. It has 2
> slots for cards and 2 10/100 ethernet ports. For a specs go to this address.
> http://www.ascend.com/3815.html
>
> Model # Retail Description
> DSLTR100-AC $10995 DSLTerminator 100 AC version
> DSLTR100-DC $10995 DSLTerminator 100 DC version
> DMX-SL-T1 $2000 4 port T1 slotcard unchannelized
> DMX-SL-E1 $2000 4 port E1 slotcard unchannelized
> DMX-SL-DS3ATM $3995 single port DS-3 slotcard ATM
> DMX-SL-DS3FR $3995 single port DS-3 slotcard frame relay
> DMX-SO-8T1 $1500 upgrade from 4 port T1 to 8 port T1
> DMX-SO-8E1 $1500 upgrade from 4 port E1 to 8 port E1
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Patrick Malone
> Lucent Product Specialist
> Merisel, Inc.
> 305 Gregson Drive
> Cary, NC 27511
> ph) 800-893-3893 opt. 1 ext. 3415
> fx) 919-319-2520
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>
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> Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Router for ADSL
> Author: Phillip Vandry <vandry@Mlink.NET>
> Date: 8/6/1999 11:55 AM
>
> IP is a protocol :-)
>
> An Internet based DSL solution uses an IP network. The DSLAM is a router
> and the protocol on the DSL line is usually PPP. From the DSLAM, traffic
> is routed into an IP network directly from the DSLAM.
>
> Frame Relay based DSL, or ATM based DSL, uses PVCs (or SVCs?) from the
> endpoint, which are switched via Frame Relay or ATM to some kind of
> exit point. From there you can plug the PVCs into Internet routers to
> provide Internet service, or into Frame Relay or ATM switches to provide
> private network services.
>
> The problem with IP based DSL is that it's not easy to do resale. You have
> to use unpopular source routing to direct traffic to the right ISP for
> the right customer. Also you can't deliver Frame Relay services using
> a DSL local loop if you have a customer that wants this.
>
> The problem with Frame or ATM based DSL is that you end up switching a
> very large numbver of PVCs to a single exit point and you need a
> dedicated aggregator box at that exit point (Like Redback's box or Ascend's
> new product the name of which I forget)
>
> I kind of like the TNT: you can do both (although there are serious bugs
> that need to be resolved, but we're making progress!)
>
> -Phil
>
> > OK, either I'm confused or you're confused.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mitchell Arnone <mitchell.arnone@occ.treas.gov>
> >
> >
> > | single DSL device... flowpoint. UUNET promotes an Internet based DSL
> > while
> > | MCI Worldcom offers a frame relay based DSL offering. Of course, recent
> >
> > Internet based DSL? Frame relay based DSL? Internet is not a protocol.
> > Frame is.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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