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ascend-users-digest        Tuesday, 10 March 1998       Volume 96 : Number 1061

In this issue:

(ASCEND) appletalk
(ASCEND) RE: Interpeting data from wddialout
(ASCEND) Undeliverable Message
(ASCEND) Does anyone know how to do Port Management - ie: SNMP ...

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From: "Leon McCalla" <ascend@caribbeanlink.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:11:29 -0500
Subject: (ASCEND) appletalk

I have never worked with MACs before but I have an upcoming project that
requires the following network.

LAN A  and LAN B are two Apple Talk LANs that will ultimately have TCP/IP
installed but my job is to join the two via either apple routing? or
bridging.  I am also to provide one LAN A with a dedicated 64K Internet
connection. my question is this...

Can I allow both LANs to communicate in a normal manner while applying some
type of call filter that will allow the pipeline to disconnect automatically
after hours? Do I need to install the AppleTalk software on the P50s and if
I do will I lose IP support?

Lost in a MAC world..
Leon

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From: "Darryl McDade" <dmc@netropolis.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:55:26 -0600
Subject: (ASCEND) RE: Interpeting data from wddialout

Good Luck!! I went through the same thing and is one of the reasons I
joined this list.  I submitted an inquiry to Ascend and besides their
original response of it looks like a NetBIOS packet please check our
tech support site for NetBIOS call filters, I was TOTALLY IGNORED and
to date still have not received any attempt at an acknowledgement of
my subsequent email (other than the auto-responder, this is ticket #
blah blah blah.)  I eventually downloaded a utility called NetAnt (I
believe it was from www.windows95.com) to analyze the packets that
were initiating the dialout.  Unfortunately the demo version of NetAnt
(the REAL version costs $600.00....and for a Network Admin, I would
say, WELL WORTH THE MONEY!!) only displays the first 5 packets.  It
took some diligence in reactivating the packet capture to determine
what the hex packet meant and what protocol was initiating it.

I don't know if I quite understand your question but if you mean that
a number is calling your P75 then your P75 is calling back and you're
trying to figure out what number is dialing YOU, to cause YOUR P75 to
call back, don't read any further.

For whatever it's worth, I'm running Win95/NT on a LAN w/
NetBEUI/NetBIOS & TCP/IP and this is the call filter I ended up using
that stopped the dreaded never ending session (DO NOT TRY TO UPLOAD
THIS TO YOUR PIPELINE, I manually created this to show you my entries
and I don't know if it is the proper format for UPLOAD):

[Allow no incoming packets to keep up the line]
In filter 01...Validþs
In filter 01...Typeþneric
In filter 01...Forwardÿ
In filter 01...Offsetÿ
In filter 01...Lengthÿ
In filter 01...Mask00000000000000
In filter 01...Value00000000000000
In filter 01...Compareÿuals
In filter 01...Moreÿ

[ICMP packets do not reset call timer]
Out filter 01...Validþs
Out filter 01...Typeÿ
Out filter 01...Forwardÿ
Out filter 01...Src Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 01...Src Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 01...Dst Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 01...Dst Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 01...Protocolÿ
Out filter 01...Src Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 01...Src Port #ÿA
Out filter 01...Dst Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 01...Port #ÿA
Out filter 01...TCP EstabÿA

[NETBIOS Name Service packets do not reset call timer]
Out filter 02...Validþs
Out filter 02...Typeÿ
Out filter 02...Forwardÿ
Out filter 02...Src Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 02...Src Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 02...Dst Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 02...Dst Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 02...Protocol
Out filter 02...Src Port Cmpÿl
Out filter 02...Src Port #7
Out filter 02...Dst Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 02...Dst Port #ÿA
Out filter 02...TCP EstabÿA

[NETBIOS Datagram Service packets do not reset call timer]
Out filter 03...Validþs
Out filter 03...Typeÿ
Out filter 03...Forwardÿ
Out filter 03...Src Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 03...Src Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 03...Dst Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 03...Dst Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 03...Protocol
Out filter 03...Src Port Cmpÿl
Out filter 03...Src Port #8
Out filter 03...Dst Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 03...Dst Port #ÿA
Out filter 03...TCP EstabÿA

[NETBIOS Session Service packets do not reset call timer]
Out filter 04...Validþs
Out filter 04...Typeÿ
Out filter 04...Forwardÿ
Out filter 04...Src Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 04...Src Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 04...Dst Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 04...Dst Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 04...Ip...Protocol
Out filter 04...Ip...Src Port Cmpÿl
Out filter 04...Ip...Src Port #9
Out filter 04...Dst Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 04...Dst Port #ÿA
Out filter 04...TCP EstabÿA

[UDP or SOCKS packets do not reset call timer - I use for ICQ]
Out filter 05...Validþs
Out filter 05...Typeÿ
Out filter 05...Forwardÿ
Out filter 05...Src Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 05...Src Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 05...Dst Maskÿ0.0.0
Out filter 05...Dst Adrsÿ0.0.0
Out filter 05...Protocol
Out filter 05...Src Port Cmpÿne
Out filter 05...Src Port #ÿA
Out filter 05...Dst Port Cmpÿr
Out filter 05...Dst Port #23
Out filter 05...TCP EstabÿA

[All OTHER outgoing ARP packets WILL reset call timer]
Out filter 10...Validþs
Out filter 10...Typeþneric
Out filter 10...Forwardþs
Out filter 10...Offset
Out filter 10...Lengthÿ
Out filter 10...Maskÿff000000000000
Out filter 10...Value06000000000000
Out filter 10...Compareÿuals
Out filter 10...Moreÿ

[All OTHER outgoing IP packets WILL reset call timer]
Out filter 11...Validþs
Out filter 11...Typeþneric
Out filter 11...Forwardþs
Out filter 11...Offset
Out filter 11...Lengthÿ
Out filter 11...Maskÿff000000000000
Out filter 11...Value00000000000000
Out filter 11...Compareÿuals
Out filter 11...Moreÿ

[All packets NOT fitting the ABOVE criteria WILL reset call timer]
Out filter 12...Validþs
Out filter 12...Typeþneric
Out filter 12...Forwardþs
Out filter 12...Offsetÿ
Out filter 12...Lengthÿ
Out filter 12...Mask00000000000000
Out filter 12...Value00000000000000
Out filter 12...Compareÿuals
Out filter 12...Moreÿ

One last comment: I think the order of the filters make a difference
also (e.g., if you put the Out filter 12 as Out filter 1 then
EVERYTHING will reset the call timer because it works it's way down
the filters in ascending order checking the criteria then stops if it
meets one.)

Hope this helps.  Again....GOOD LUCK!!!

Darryl



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From:	owner-ascend-users@max.bungi.com [mailto:craig@epilogics.com] On
Behalf Of Craig
Sent:	Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:46 PM
To:	'ascend-users@max.bungi.com'
Subject:	Interpeting data from wddialout


Help!

I am trying to write a filter to prevent random and unwanted TCP/IP
dialouts on an ascend Pipeline 75.     I think I have a fundamental
understanding of how to write the filter but am not certain how to
locate the number that is actually initiating the call.   The hex-dump
from the wddialout debug command looks like thisàà.

  Date: 01/01/1990.  Time: 05:42:50
Cause an attempt to place call to 16194589062
WD_DIALOUT_DISP: chunk 26872E type IP.
(task: 2688D0, time: 20570.40) 60 octets @ 2A9A68
  [0000]: 00 C0 7B 6E 85 A3 00 60 97 CA 0A 54 08 00 45 00
  [0010]: 00 3C C9 88 00 00 7F 11 DB 7D D0 89 FD 94 D0 89
  [0020]: F8 02 06 04 00 35 00 28 B9 25 00 01 01 00 00 01
  [0030]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 77 77 77 06 6E

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Craig

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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 7:12:26 +0100
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From: "Adam Neat" <adamneat@ipax.com.au>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:43:20 +0000
Subject: (ASCEND) Does anyone know how to do Port Management - ie: SNMP ...

Hello everyone

Ive been trying to find a solution for this for ages - but it seems I'm the 
only one who wants to know about it.

We want to be able to look at a client's port and see their utilisation and 
total byte count.

We also use Cisco's and we can do this from our management stations.

I know there is some bug / error with the Ascend SNMP implementatin where the 
indexes are never the same, but, there _HAS_ to be some other method of saying 

"Oh, client ABC is currently using 45% of their capacity and since last monday 
they've used 4.4 gig."

Any ideas?

Regards

adam

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