I have a partial *test* setup which shows that part of this can be done. Note this was a TEST setup, and has been fiddled with a few times, so please excuse any inconsistencies that may appear here. It did work at the time ;) You just rely on the frame-relay switch to control the CIR values: START=FRELAY=200=0 Name=frame-1 Active=Yes Nailed Grp=3 Data Svc=64K Link Mgmt=T1.617D END=FRELAY=200=0 START=ROUTE=200=0 Name=Default Gateway=192.207.23.93 Metric=1 Private=Yes END=ROUTE=200=0 START=CONN=200=1 Station=max-house Active=Yes Dial #=1700nnnnnnn Route IP=Yes Bridge=No Encaps options...Send Auth=CHAP Encaps options...Send PW=xxxxxxxx Ip options...LAN Adrs=192.207.23.93/24 END=CONN=200=1 START=CONN=200=2 Station=dlci-16 Active=Yes Encaps=FR Route IP=Yes Bridge=No Encaps options...FR Prof=frame-1 Ip options...LAN Adrs=10.0.0.16/32 Telco options...Call Type=Nailed END=CONN=200=2 START=CONN=200=3 Station=dlci-17 Active=Yes Encaps=FR Route IP=Yes Bridge=No Encaps options...FR Prof=frame-1 Encaps options...DLCI=17 Ip options...LAN Adrs=10.0.0.17/32 Telco options...Call Type=Nailed END=CONN=200=3 START=Nailed T1=300=0 Last DS0 =24 END=Nailed T1=300=0 START=ETHERNET=200=0 Ether options...IP Adrs=10.20.10.174/16 Ether options...RIP=Off Bridging=No NAT Routing=Yes NAT Profile=max-house Log...Syslog=Yes Log...Log Host=10.20.10.172 END=ETHERNET=200=0 START=SYSTEM=0=0 Name=kevin END=SYSTEM=0=0 START=LINE=100=0 Name=Factory Switch Type=NI-1 Line 1...Link Type=Multi_P Line 1...Pri Num=3758 Line 1...Pri SPID=41568237580101 Line 1...Sec Num=3761 Line 1...Sec SPID=41568237610101 END=LINE=100=0 START=LINE=100=1 END=LINE=100=1 Kevin ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09040.html">Re: (ASCEND) Can a p130 handle a full t1?</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Josh Beck <jbeck@connectnet.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg09041.html">Re: (ASCEND) Can a p130 handle a full t1?</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Craig Salmond <salmond@unix.cde.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09046.html">Re: (ASCEND) MAX and Radius</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09044.html">(ASCEND) Re: ascend-users-digest V96 #809</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09117.html">Re: (ASCEND) Can a p130 handle a full t1?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg09047.html">Re: (ASCEND) Can a p130 handle a full t1?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail3.html#09045"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd176.html#09045"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>