I'm glad to see more people have stepped in. I will yield, and for the time being I'm going to unsubscribe from the list. I hope to hear of better things to come. All the best, Erik On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM, David Wagle <david.wagle at gmail.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > As someone pursuing graduate studies in psychology, I concur with Eric > on all points about speculating on people's health. > > Further, the diagnosis of a real disorder is not an excuse to abuse > social norms nor a free pass to disrupt public or private spaces. > People with these conditions are human beings who need to be treated > with dignity and respect, but they also need to be held reasonably > accountable for their actions. > > I also concur that events such as this demonstrate a need for active > governance of the list. That said, I don't think that the correct > response to people who clearly are having difficulty understanding the > nature and purpose of a mailing list is simply to label them "troll" > and hit the ban button. > > I would ask that whoever makes the decision about Paul (and anyone > else for that matter) exercise a great deal of restraint and patience > while at the same time protecting the integrity and purpose of the list. > > > > On 03/31/2014 07:01 AM, Erik Mitchell wrote: >> I have a B.A. in Psychology from the U of M, and I've been living >> with a diagnosis for 7 years. I think I know enough. I at least >> know enough to not speculate on others' health matters in public >> forum. >> >> Also, "manic depression" is a term which was retired from use in >> 1980, if my quick google search found an accurate result. And if >> you were to discuss a person with influenza or cancer, you wouldn't >> put quotation marks around those conditions, as if to say "so >> called." >> >> I'm not going to discuss this anymore in this setting. I don't >> think this group or this list should continue on without some kind >> of governance, as we run the risk of hurting people who may be in >> a vulnerable condition. We shouldn't just bandy about this kind of >> nonsense. I respectfully ask that we bring this thread to a close >> and wait on the list administrator to weigh in on the matter. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Erik >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Well, Erik, maybe you should learn more about it. Having a >>> diagnosis doesn't mean you are the same as everyone else with >>> that diagnosis. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Erik Mitchell wrote: >>> >>>> Mike I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I don't >>>> appreciate you inference. I am able to control my behavior. >>>> >>>> Admin, please attend to my earlier request. >>>> >>>> Erik On Mar 30, 2014 8:35 PM, "Mike Miller" >>>> <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Paul G-- >>>>> >>>>> Have you ever been diagnosed with "manic depression" or >>>>> "bipolar disorder?" I'm just asking because sometimes people >>>>> who have that kind of problem really mean the best and are >>>>> trying to help, but they might not have as much money as they >>>>> think they have. Sometimes they make big plans that they >>>>> later regret -- like anyone, I suppose, but on a somewhat >>>>> grander scale. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Pardon me? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope you realize a few things: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) I have no clue what you’re talking about. 2) I don’t >>>>>> work without a deposit without referral 3) I run a >>>>>> photography wire service. 4) It’s March 5) It’s Mad (see >>>>>> #4) 6) I’ve been busier this month than any other year >>>>>> before. 7) What the heck are you talking about? 8) I don’t >>>>>> program systems. 9) 1-8 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:05 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was asking for the bottom of the barrel guy . MR. Ryan >>>>>> Colman, never >>>>>>> >>>>>>> helped so now I pay. Direct Donation to Linux-Mint. You >>>>>>> care about Mint ? I will give the cash to the so called >>>>>>> 'bottom of the barrel guy' The money goes to: Ebenezer >>>>>>> Enterprises >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:39:24 -0500 From: >>>>>>> tclug at freakzilla.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: >>>>>>> Re: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey you show me your $900 and I'll happily do stuff for >>>>>>> MINT for a week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, paul g wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am buying a coder for Linux-Mint you got a problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ________________ >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:22:13 -0500 From: >>>>>>>> chapinjeff at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What just happened here? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM, paul g >>>>>>>> <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: Maybe you are scared to >>>>>>>> work on the Linux-Mint project. You are needed to weed >>>>>>>> through any C--- files and make Linux Mint the best. >>>>>>>> 900.00 a week but you work for MINT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PJ 952-406-1430 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ________________ >>>>>>>> From: pj.world at hotmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:13:34 -0500 Subject: Re: >>>>>>>> [tclug-list] C++ conference plans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would you work for Linux-Mint? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ________________ >>>>>>>> From: pj.world at hotmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: Re: >>>>>>>> [tclug-list] C++ conference plans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be able to provide transport. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > ________________ >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:59:10 +0000 From: >>>>>>>> woodbrian77 at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> Subject: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking about attending this C++ conference: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cppcon.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in Seattle this fall. If you are interested in >>>>>>>> joining me on a road trip, let me know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone going to cppnow.org ? If I were more >>>>>>>> organized, I'd have signed up for that, but it sold out >>>>>>>> faster than ever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And I remain interested in a local C++ meeting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust. >>>>>>>> http://webEbenezer.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG >>>>>>>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>>>>>>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>>>>>>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > - -- >>>>>>>> Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President, >>>>>>>> UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba >>>>>>>> Club Senator, NISG, retired >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG >>>>>>>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - >>>>>>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG >>>>>>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing >>>>> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing >>> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >> >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTOYBPAAoJELWzpBXk2k3wmv8H/00zaOnXjw2QhcFAFLJEU06W > pBHmP54mVkuOx052UtVykNgPfVkbfQDOha8/1u+2TUrg26zlqgTzch0EPgTeQlnG > i7ZUN7ebupAy+uy4pKE6gdvqlLWDhH/SeNjfYfswKgCSXyPCywLjYq05KUUmu/HY > T6/R/qQq1+UKrGo3WCHjQdLJxckOLa0FRoweS6d8FD3pmFuXqaXIqMCofiI2KdJC > ge8jNVQ+4UGkC77qY8QkQBuQ+4/eEeyxGfaQp9iEpkj9uhJjKqxRT1Z0btmm414c > 5yT2hULr0Lgvf/ePxyW2Q8nB4FFYwrSjiX6+1ZhT2oRBj5Kwh+nF50cPQ3d8T+w= > =tCId > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Erik K. Mitchell erik.mitchell at gmail.com