I'm glad to see more people have stepped in. I will yield, and for the
time being I'm going to unsubscribe from the list.

I hope to hear of better things to come.

All the best,

Erik

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:48 AM, David Wagle <david.wagle at gmail.com> wrote:
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> As someone pursuing graduate studies in psychology, I concur with Eric
> on all points about speculating on people's health.
>
> Further, the diagnosis of a real disorder is not an excuse to abuse
> social norms nor a free pass to disrupt public or private spaces.
> People with these conditions are human beings who need to be treated
> with dignity and respect, but they also need to be held reasonably
> accountable for their actions.
>
> I also concur that events such as this demonstrate a need for active
> governance of the list. That said, I don't think that the correct
> response to people who clearly are having difficulty understanding the
> nature and purpose of a mailing list is simply to label them "troll"
> and hit the ban button.
>
> I would ask that whoever makes the decision about Paul (and anyone
> else for that matter) exercise a great deal of restraint and patience
> while at the same time protecting the integrity and purpose of the list.
>
>
>
> On 03/31/2014 07:01 AM, Erik Mitchell wrote:
>> I have a B.A. in Psychology from the U of M, and I've been living
>> with a diagnosis for 7 years. I think I know enough. I at least
>> know enough to not speculate on others' health matters in public
>> forum.
>>
>> Also, "manic depression" is a term which was retired from use in
>> 1980, if my quick google search found an accurate result. And if
>> you were to discuss a person with influenza or cancer, you wouldn't
>> put quotation marks around those conditions, as if to say "so
>> called."
>>
>> I'm not going to discuss this anymore in this setting. I don't
>> think this group or this list should continue on without some kind
>> of governance, as we run the risk of hurting people who may be in
>> a vulnerable condition. We shouldn't just bandy about this kind of
>> nonsense. I respectfully ask that we bring this thread to a close
>> and wait on the list administrator to weigh in on the matter.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Well, Erik, maybe you should learn more about it.  Having a
>>> diagnosis doesn't mean you are the same as everyone else with
>>> that diagnosis.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Erik Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I don't
>>>> appreciate you inference. I am able to control my behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Admin, please attend to my earlier request.
>>>>
>>>> Erik On Mar 30, 2014 8:35 PM, "Mike Miller"
>>>> <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul G--
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever been diagnosed with "manic depression" or
>>>>> "bipolar disorder?"  I'm just asking because sometimes people
>>>>> who have that kind of problem really mean the best and are
>>>>> trying to help, but they might not have as much money as they
>>>>> think they have.  Sometimes they make big plans that they
>>>>> later regret -- like anyone, I suppose, but on a somewhat
>>>>> grander scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pardon me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you realize a few things:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) I have no clue what you’re talking about. 2) I don’t
>>>>>> work without a deposit without referral 3) I run a
>>>>>> photography wire service. 4) It’s March 5) It’s Mad (see
>>>>>> #4) 6) I’ve been busier this month than any other year
>>>>>> before. 7) What the heck are you talking about? 8) I don’t
>>>>>> program systems. 9) 1-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:05 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was asking for the bottom of the barrel guy . MR. Ryan
>>>>>> Colman, never
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> helped so now I pay. Direct Donation to Linux-Mint. You
>>>>>>> care about Mint ? I will give the cash to the so called
>>>>>>> 'bottom of the barrel guy' The money goes to: Ebenezer
>>>>>>> Enterprises
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:39:24 -0500 From:
>>>>>>> tclug at freakzilla.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject:
>>>>>>> Re: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey you show me your $900 and I'll happily do stuff for
>>>>>>> MINT for a week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, paul g wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am buying a coder for Linux-Mint you got a problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> ________________
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:22:13 -0500 From:
>>>>>>>> chapinjeff at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What just happened here?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM, paul g
>>>>>>>> <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: Maybe you are scared to
>>>>>>>> work on the  Linux-Mint project. You are needed to weed
>>>>>>>> through any C--- files and make Linux Mint the best.
>>>>>>>> 900.00 a week but you work for MINT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PJ 952-406-1430
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> ________________
>>>>>>>> From: pj.world at hotmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:13:34 -0500 Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>> [tclug-list] C++ conference plans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you work for Linux-Mint?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> ________________
>>>>>>>> From: pj.world at hotmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>> [tclug-list] C++ conference plans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would be able to provide transport.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> ________________
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:59:10 +0000 From:
>>>>>>>> woodbrian77 at gmail.com To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [tclug-list] C++ conference plans
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm thinking about attending this C++ conference:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cppcon.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in Seattle this fall.   If you are interested in
>>>>>>>> joining me on a road trip, let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone going to cppnow.org ?   If I were more
>>>>>>>> organized, I'd have signed up for that, but it sold out
>>>>>>>> faster than ever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I remain interested in a local C++ meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
>>>>>>>> http://webEbenezer.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> - --
>>>>>>>> Jeff Chapin President, CedarLug, retired President,
>>>>>>>> UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" President, UNI Scuba
>>>>>>>> Club Senator, NISG, retired
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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