And very easy to make non-functional. Kill the radio, remove the SIM, disable WiFi… I could take his phone (let’s say it’s an iPhone) and have it complete reset and functional in minutes. Or hundreds of codes could be entered without a single photo being sent. This isn’t the same thing as eay to trace, if someone steals a phone usually the first thing they do is turn it off eliminating tracking capabilities. On Jan 29, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Linda Kateley <lkateley at kateley.com> wrote: > One of my kids friends has an app that takes a picture of anyone who tries to get into his phone after 3 failed tries. I think that's cool. Not impossible to trace. Very possible to trace. > > In my school district they are rolling out ipads. They did a test and had someone take one and hide it. They found it within the hour. > > My kids and husband have iphones so i can find them or turn them off with find my iphone. I am certain the droids have the same thing. > > The technology is here we just have to use it. :) > > linda > > > On 1/29/14 1:44 PM, Tom Poe wrote: >> On 01/29/2014 01:17 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Tony Yarusso wrote: >>> >>>> Right now the carrier can kill your phone at any time. >>>> >>>> This bill would let YOU kill your phone at any time. >>> >>> >>> Is that correct? I think Max is right about this being the sort of issue we should be keeping an eye on. I'm not clear at all on what this bill would require. The bill is requiring that their be some mechanism whereby the phone can be shut off somehow, not just as a cell phone, but also as a WiFi device. >>> >>> I don't even understand how that would work. I do understand the goal - to make stole phones worthless, which sounds like a good idea. It might save lives (as the article says - people have been killed for their cell phones). >>> >>> Mike >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >> Rules and regulations pertaining to manufacture of devices is one thing. Codifying through legislative acts is another. Our government has rules and regulations on the use of Open Source software in government devices. Has our government codified those rules through legislative acts? If not, why not? Some are using the logic that people are killed over cell phones. I haven't heard any support that a kill switch deters further thefts or deaths. Begs the question as to why the kill switch needs to be legislated at this time. Begins to sound like the legislation that followed years of surveillance conduct that the legislature gave the phone companies. >> Tom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list