oh shoot, another unhappy customer... On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> wrote: > In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I now > regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's > older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require > virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a > virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions > of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). > > Thanks, > > -Dan > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: > >> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius) >> 2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman) >> 3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller) >> 4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin) >> 5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell) >> 6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso) >> 7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >> (Patrick "Finn" Robins) >> 8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600 >> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get >> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across >> Edina and Bloomington. >> >> -Rob >> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com >> >wrote: >> >> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >> > >> > Simmons >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110120/7a613433/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600 >> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Robert, >> >> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot Knob. >> Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >> >> -- >> Ryan >> >> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote: >> >> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get >> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across >> Edina and Bloomington. >> > >> > -Rob >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >> wrote: >> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >> > >> > Simmons >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/1a9ba17f/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST) >> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot >> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >> >> >> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West river >> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. From >> there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit >> any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour >> and it works great. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600 >> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> > Tclug, >> > >> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd >> > start here before having to make another user account in another >> > system somewhere... >> > >> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm >> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on >> it. >> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to >> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free >> version which is only limited to ESXi. >> > >> > System Specs are as follows: >> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >> > 4gb's of ram >> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be supported >> > >> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster >> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's >> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead >> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them. >> > >> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware >> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know. >> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into >> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it. >> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or >> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > - >> > Dan >> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/cad78f9e/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600 >> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Robert, >> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak >> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south >> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would >> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville >> and SLP. >> >> -Erik >> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> wrote: >> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >> get >> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get >> across >> > Edina and Bloomington. >> > >> > -Rob >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >> >> Simmons >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer >> erik.mitchell at gmail.com >> erik at ekmitchell.com >> http://ekmitchell.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600 >> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > System Specs are as follows: >> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >> >> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the >> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or >> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which >> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work >> *well*, if at all. >> >> - Tony >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600 >> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com> >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions >> is >> a big performance hit. >> >> >> -Patrick "Finn" Robins >> >> -- >> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter >> and those who matter don't mind. >> - Dr. Seuss >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/20c3a43b/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600 >> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >> Message-ID: >> <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time. >> >> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Tclug, >> > >> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd start >> > here before having to make another user account in another system >> > somewhere... >> > >> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm looking >> to >> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. >> > >> > System Specs are as follows: >> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >> > 4gb's of ram >> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >> > >> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >> LP2000R >> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until >> I'm >> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor 4 >> or >> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >> > >> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware ESX >> or >> > ESXi product, please let me know. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > - >> > Dan >> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/4c0ea402/attachment.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 73, Issue 40 >> ****************************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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