In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I now
regret it.  Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's
older software.  VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require
virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a
virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions
of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only).

Thanks,

-Dan

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> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600
> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St.
> Cloud area.  Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get
> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no
> path that wasn't completely stacked up.  Took me 45 minutes to get across
> Edina and Bloomington.
>
> -Rob
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to
> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.
> >
> > Simmons
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600
> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> Robert,
>
> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot Knob.
> Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.
>
> --
> Ryan
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote:
>
> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St.
> Cloud area.  Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get
> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no
> path that wasn't completely stacked up.  Took me 45 minutes to get across
> Edina and Bloomington.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com>
> wrote:
> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to
> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.
> >
> > Simmons
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST)
> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu>
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> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>
> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot
> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.
>
>
> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road.  Take the West river
> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East.  From
> there you can get on Rt. 5.  You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit
> any lights.  I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour
> and it works great.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600
> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu>
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> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote:
> > Tclug,
> >
> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd
> > start here before having to make another user account in another
> > system somewhere...
> >
> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm
> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it.
> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to
> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free
> version which is only limited to ESXi.
> >
> > System Specs are as follows:
> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.
> > 4gb's of ram
> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.
> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be supported
> >
> > This is the faster of my two servers.  I also have a HP Netserver
> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster
> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's
> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.
> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead
> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them.
> >
> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware
> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know.
> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into
> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it.
> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or
> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -
> > Dan
> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600
> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> Robert,
> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak
> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south
> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would
> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville
> and SLP.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St.
> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to
> get
> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no
> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get across
> > Edina and Bloomington.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to
> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.
> >> Simmons
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer
> erik.mitchell at gmail.com
> erik at ekmitchell.com
> http://ekmitchell.com/
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600
> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID:
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> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > System Specs are as follows:
> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
>
> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the
> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or
> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type.  I'm not sure which
> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work
> *well*, if at all.
>
>  - Tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600
> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com>
> >
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> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions is
> a big performance hit.
>
>
> -Patrick "Finn" Robins
>
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600
> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor.  Don't waste your time.
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tclug,
> >
> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd start
> > here before having to make another user account in another system
> > somewhere...
> >
> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm looking
> to
> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it.
> >
> > System Specs are as follows:
> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors
> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.
> > 4gb's of ram
> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.
> >
> > This is the faster of my two servers.  I also have a HP Netserver LP2000R
> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until I'm
> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor 4
> or
> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.
> >
> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware ESX
> or
> > ESXi product, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -
> > Dan
> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota
> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list
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