get ahold of rj on the list   he is interested in it also.  currently
computer science but soon to merge with bioinformatics.  you recently moved
to minnesota    how is that going?  if this works out with a few volunteers
on the list we should get together and make a plan.  this thread is heading
in the right direction!

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:20 PM, tom <tompoe at meltel.net> wrote:

> Samuel:  Didn't realize you were a student.  What's your major?  St.
> Thomas is pretty far along with their virtual world exploration.  I
> think they monetize some of what they do.  If you can get a feasible
> WiMAX presentation in place, it becomes a natural for presenting to
> groups, neighborhoods, communities across the state.  St. Thomas then
> sees a marketing tool for their work.  Forget the Internet access, and
> focus on a 12 mile radius mesh network that communities can modify to
> fit their needs.  Cost is attractive, even if it's a one-time fee for
> $50 per house.  Broadband forever, and able to be operated and
> maintained by non-technical volunteers.  Ypsilanti, Michigan does this.
> Check them out.  I think they're still tied to Meraki.  So, it's not as
> if this is not tried and tested stuff.  I'll meet with you, and we can
> use a couple of my wifi units to get a mock up on small scale.
> Happy Holidays,
> Tom
>
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 18:51 -0600, Samael wrote:
> >  i should have known it was you with all the great advice.  since it
> > was you who gave me the idea.   i gave you credit on the other thread
> > by the way, well sort of, i couldn't remember your last name.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         wow.  that is some awesome advice.  i was sort of kidding, but
> >         with this advice i just may take it on as a project.  it would
> >         look good on my resume when i graduate from college.
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM, tom <tompoe at meltel.net>
> >         wrote:
> >                 Hi:  Think about presenting the idea of a local
> >                 broadband infrastructure
> >                 to your local mayor.  If the mayor likes the idea, the
> >                 next step is to
> >                 meet with his tech advisor.  Open-mesh.com appears to
> >                 sell wifi that
> >                 each house can use to establish community wide local
> >                 broadband
> >                 infrastructure without Internet access.  Units priced
> >                 at $29 per house,
> >                 one-time fee.  With the local broadband infrastructure
> >                 in place, the
> >                 city can coordinate with ISP that wants to gain access
> >                 to the broadband
> >                 infrastructure to provide affordable pricing.  If not,
> >                 then the
> >                 community can set up virtual world, and work within
> >                 the community.
> >
> >                 This "last mile" is actively legislated as illegal at
> >                 the community and
> >                 state level.  The local hospital can gain access to
> >                 the infrastructure
> >                 for telemedicine programs in return for affordable
> >                 Internet access.
> >                 Grocery stores can offer "branded" network services,
> >                 etc.  Since each
> >                 community connects to other communities through WiMAX,
> >                 it doesn't take
> >                 long to connect a state, and bypass ISP/Phone/Cable
> >                 thugs.
> >
> >                 Legally, your mayor will be told quickly by the
> >                 telecoms that you can't
> >                 do this community initiative.  No need for you to pay
> >                 a lawyer, yet.
> >                 Happy Holidays,
> >                 Tom Poe, Eden Valley, MN
> >
> >
> >                 On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 14:16 -0600, Sean Waite wrote:
> >                 > Who do I call for legal advice?
> >                 >
> >                 > Sean Waite
> >                 > swaite at sbn-services.com
> >                 > (612) 669-8858
> >                 >
> >                 >
> >                 >
> >                 > At Wednesday, 22-12-2010 on 14:09 Ryan Coleman
> >                 wrote:
> >                 >         I had " Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list
> >                 Digest, Vol 72,
> >                 >         Issue 29" which is normal for "r j" to not
> >                 actually give his
> >                 >         emails a subject when he replies in digest
> >                 mode.
> >                 >
> >                 >         On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Samael wrote:
> >                 >
> >                 >         > seems to be the same subject to me.  it is
> >                 an alternative to
> >                 >         > what ron johnson had suggested.  thank you
> >                 for your advice
> >                 >         > though.  i will keep it in mind next time
> >                 i want to change
> >                 >         > the subject.
> >                 >         >
> >                 >         > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ryan
> >                 Coleman
> >                 >         > <ryanjcole at me.com> wrote:
> >                 >         >         Just changing the subject line so
> >                 people can
> >                 >         >         follow.
> >                 >         >
> >                 >         >         On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:17 PM,
> >                 Samael wrote:
> >                 >         >
> >                 >         >         > fcc opend up bandwidth for
> >                 public use.  we could
> >                 >         >         > make a wireless mesh network
> >                 consisting of
> >                 >         >         > multiple antena and start our
> >                 own internet.
> >                 >         >         >
> >                 >         >         > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:43
> >                 PM, r j
> >                 >         >         > <ronsmailbox5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >                 >         >         >         Back to the air for me.
> >                 >         >         >         Any one else Interested
> >                 in metro wide
> >                 >         >         >         public Wimaxx?
> >                 >         >         >         ,RJ
> >                 >         >
> >                 >         >
> >                 >         >
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