All advice and experiance is apreciated, thank you. Scot and Matthew Berbee is a brand new facility, mostly empty actually, but they do have man traps, biometric hand scanners, redundent utility feeds, I didn't ask about kevlar walls. They did only have one power generator with plans for and space for an identical second big catapiller 12 cylandar beast, huge. they also have redundant HVAC, multi zone dry pipe fire system, the smoke detection can sence the smoke in the clothes of a smoker comming inside from having a smoke. It all sounds like overkill to me but what do I know. It sounds like they are working off the same data center specifications needed to get some kind of elite certification that Equinix must have. They mentioned they did not have the cert yet, I don't remember what the cert was but one of the things they had to do to compleat it was get the second generator installed. -- Tom Penney _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list