> FWIW: The Burnsville Apple Valley area is stuck with > Charter for cable or Frontier for DSL. Both block port 25, > and neither > provides a means for me to do smtpauth with Earthlink. Each > has some agreements with other ISPs (Visi, AOL) so some > unbundled "wire services" are available, but neither has a > deal with Earthlink, for example. Why would you want Earthlink when you can get Visi??? I have Earthlink with TW, and while their customer support is the best I've experienced with a national ISP, I'd still rather be back with visi. Matt _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list