On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:21:19PM -0500, Thomas Eibner wrote:

[snip]

> Why on earth would he have to get a job waiting tables? It's not going to
> change his nor my perception of servers. To ME they are there to SERVE ME,
> I go there to be SERVED! If you can't bother asking me if my meal is as
> I expected, check if I need a refill then you should not expect ANY tip at
> all. You are there to serve me, and I pay you for that service. 

Exactly, pay the house for the food, the server for the service. Bad service,
no tip. I've gone to $establishment repeatedly and had them screw up my order
EVERY SINGLE TIME, despite CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS and being rather nice, yet clear
about my order (nothing special, just '#6, ranch dressing on the side, sprite'

If they can't be bothered to write something that simple down, and double check
it when the cook lays it out, then min. wage is sufficient.

On the other hand, I've had some excellent experiences when the order is right,
the waiter is nice, makes sure everything is OK and i'm not left without silverware
or a drink. I know they make poor wages and I'm happy to tip them 20%+

> Cry me a fucking river, if you wanted to have a steady income you should
> not have picked a waiting job and count on 20% tips - or you should
> treat your "clients" like you wanted to be treated yourself.

No kidding.

> 
> Now to be fair, there's always idiots that don't tip no matter what, and
> they should be the ones going to the places that you don't need to tip
> as you mentioned before. 

I think the problem is that most places with waiters charge $8 for a burger,
$2 for a drink, and $3 for a slice of pie. You feel you've already been 
overcharged for your so-so food, and don't really feel like paying extra
for the so-so service.

Summary - pay what is deserved, not what is expected.

-- 
Matthew S. Hallacy                            FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified
http://www.poptix.net                           GPG public key 0x01938203

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