On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 07:57:03PM -0500, Sam MacDonald wrote:
> Ya might want to rethink that statement.
> 
> Wait staff in many cases don't make minimum wage, the tip is part of the 
> wage _and part of the business_. If your wait person does a crappy job 
> don't tip, but if they do a good job tip the 15%. If they go way beyond 
> tip more.

On #tclug it was quoted that minimum wage is $4.50 in Minnesota in the
food industry. 

> What I have to say to you is, get a job waiting table.  You will only 
> understand what it means to be jilted on a tip when you have been jilted 
> on a tip.  I worked for many years in the service industry, bar 
> tender/waiter. I have this to say to anyone that thinks they shouldn't tip,

Why on earth would he have to get a job waiting tables? It's not going to
change his nor my perception of servers. To ME they are there to SERVE ME,
I go there to be SERVED! If you can't bother asking me if my meal is as
I expected, check if I need a refill then you should not expect ANY tip at
all. You are there to serve me, and I pay you for that service. 

Cry me a fucking river, if you wanted to have a steady income you should
not have picked a waiting job and count on 20% tips - or you should
treat your "clients" like you wanted to be treated yourself.

Now to be fair, there's always idiots that don't tip no matter what, and
they should be the ones going to the places that you don't need to tip
as you mentioned before. 

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