Todd Is there any empirical evidence that a requirement of accountability is either harmful or unfair? A mandatory log-in/log-out would do well to solve both the security/control issues and further the exposure of the students to what will be expected of them in the post-educational (for most of us, the "real") world. Non-compliance could be easily tracked, and would simply result in a metered limit of access. Is this simple bit of logic beyond our current state of educational politics? (naively?) Bill On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:55:06 -0600 Todd Young <auditodd at comcast.net> writes: > I think people are missing the point..... > > This is a number of schools, with a network of "publicly" used > computers, at least public in the sense that any number of students > in > the schools can access these computers. Unless the ".pl page" is > accessible to the "outside" world, filtering by IP would not solve > the > problem. If the page is accessible from the outside world, then a > filter > to allow only IPs within the school system would be partially > effective. > > I think the only way to solve the problem would be to implement a > "log > on" standard across all of the computers at all of the schools > involved. > Forcing the students to log on to use a computer would provide a two > > fold solution. First, it would get them used to proper computer > security > in a shared-PC environment. Second, it would allow you to "track" > mischievous behavior. This is not a perfect solution, but I don't > think > there is a perfect solution. > > There is a catch. If a student fails to properly log out of their > session, someone could use that session to send the mischievous > messages. Even if a student didn't send the message, but failed to > properly log out, they could be reprimanded for not following proper > > security standards. > > Once the message gets out that "you can be tracked down by your > login", > students will be less likely to cause problems, AND more aware of > security measures that protect their "identity". > > Callum Lerwick wrote: > >>I run a content filter at a number of schools. When a site is > banned the > >>user gets a .pl page to fill out on my server explaining why they > think the > >>site should not be blocked. I get an email of their comments each > time the > >>form is submitted. Lately, some people with too much time on their > hands are > >>bringing the page up from my web site and sending me some cute, > simple > >>minded messages. Is there something I can add to httpd.conf that > will only > >>allow the page to be pulled up if it is requested from a specific > IP or > >>network? > > > > > > If its a script to begin with, the cleanest thing would probably > be to > > just add some code to the script to ignore anyone coming from the > wrong > > IP. Dunno how to do it in perl offhand, but the REMOTE_ADDR cgi > variable > > should be what you want... > > -- > Todd Young > 7079 Dawn Ave. E. > Inver Grove Heights, MN 55076 > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list