Well I wrote AT&T "tech support" last night. I've actually gotten a couple of messages back. First one is the standard, reinstall TCP drivers. Wrote back that won't make a difference, I can connecto to SOME sites. So they ask for traceroutes to the sites, I don't think this will help, but it at least shows a little more knowledge. So I send them along. I get back, we're filtering access to port 80, that's why it's not working. Man are some people just stupid or what? -- Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe | jpschewe at mtu.net For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39