I am familiar enough with all the facets of my system to not rely on the kernel packages, the nvidia packages etc. which I personally see as not a necessity, but a convenience for those who don't want/know to do so by hand. Personaly, I hate lilo, but I'm all about grub, a fresh kernel.org kernel/patch and "make"ing it. That's part of my satisfaction in using linux, is doing it by hand, maybe I'm to *old school* (phhhh yeah right!) but the debian kernel packages annoy me. I'm going back to slackware when 7.2 is released.. I love slackware.. What a nice clean distro.. Thanks, -- Thomas J. Hudak Systems Administrator Sistina Software Inc. - www.sistina.com Phone: 612.379.3951 Page: 612.318.1967 Fax: 612.379.3952 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20010403/51da9c9d/attachment.pgp