On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:10:49AM -0500, Nick B wrote:
>Ben,
>    Irrationality isn't going to get the linux community anywhere. The only way
>Linux can succeed in the world and attempt to compete with Microsoft Windows on all
>scales (including gaming) is if a commercial company behind it.
>

Um, I was having a perfectly calm discussion. So I think RedHat sucks. What do
you care? Thier distro sucks, and I think they suck as a company. Do I think
the community needs them? Sure. But they still stuck.

>    Redhat has put a lot of time into this distribution, 

Not nearly enough, thier package managment needs work. I'd like to know how
many people they have workign on ALL those packages. 

>and I know that for a fact.
>What I also know, is that Redhat cares a lot about the consumers. You may ask: "Well
>how does he know this?". Well I know a few people who work there and I'm in constant
>contact with them. 

How nice.

>Sometimes this stuff happens. Don't blame it on the company for
>not caring... that is just being ignorant. 

Now this was total flame bait. You obviously have nothing better to do.

>I downloaded Redhat 7.0 myself, burned
>it, and installed it without any glitches. Also... did you think that this person
>might have said: "Scan for bad blocks" when formatting his drive 

If they picked format at all the data is gone. Scanning for bad blocks isn't
going to affect anything.  And I said in my email we don't exactly know what
happened. I also said that I was going to do a couple installs and post my
results. Maybe you should read a little more before you start to flame. And
for suture reference, should you feel like flaming me, don't. Cause you have
been added to the "once list" a handly little list I have of all the people I
choose not to read thier posts as they seem like flamewar to me.

>and ended up
>loosing the space he thought he had free? I know on my laptop it told me I didn't
>have enough space free right away, so I fixed that and started the install :)
>

Good for you.


>    Don't blame it on the company for being a huge commercial business. 

The bigger they are, the more they suck. It's inevitable. And if you think
otherwise, you are the "ignorant" person. Smaller companies are more personal,
efficient, and have more soul. (read: USWest)

>The people I
>have contact with tell me that Redhat is NOT at all like Microsoft in any way. 

I never said they were.

>The
>people there are nice, caring people who just want the best. Also, lets face
>it....Microsoft didn't get to where they are now because they had good OS's... its
>because they are a commercial company like Redhat that can consult for businesses
>and solve their problems with the OS's solutions. 

You think they did it through quality consulting? HAHAHA You are naive.

>Just get use to Redhat, 
Why? Are you saying we all have no alternative? I don't have to use any dist
if I don't want to, hell I can roll my own or use debian. We all know that
will remain free.

>don't
>fight them, because then you are just helping Microsoft.

Well thank you Eric S. Raymond. 

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Ben Lutgens  Cell: 651.387.9065  Home: 651.703.9541


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