Re: [TCLUG:22179] freeBSD

["Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>]

I haven't found any significant memory issues with this.  Staticly linked
binaries are faster initially because they don't have to load support
libraries.  FreeBSD now uses TCSH/CSH as the root shell (before it was just
CSH).  I have nothing but good things to say about FreeBSD's performance.

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Kochie" <ben@nerp.net>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:22179] freeBSD


>
> > Why don't you go to http://www.freebsd.com and have a look.  I for one
can
> > say that certain things about FreeBSD are far more mature than Linux.
> >
> > I will give one point - all binaries in /bin and /sbin are statically
> > linked, thus the system will always boot - even without the C libraries.
To
> > make such a distribution on Linux is problematic - because it is all
based
> > upon GNU source code - and some of the binaries from a single package
reside
> > in both /bin and /usr/bin for instance.  So the same package would have
to
> > be compiled twice and only the relevent binaries copied.
> i think that's more distro dependant.. but i have had very few library
> booting problems before, and I'd much rather have /bin/bash dynamicaly
> linked to save memory.  I do keep a copy of staticaly linked /bin/ash
> around for emergency fixing.  but i rarely have to use it.
>
> >
> > Also, the kernel is organized in a much different manner.  I think the
Linux
> > kernel source is far easier to read and understand, but it is not as
> > efficient as the BSD kernel.  That is changing every day and the two are
> > getting closer.
> also, last time i checked, the BSD kernel is not support dynamic modules,
> if you need to make changes, you will have to recompile the whole thing,
> and reboot.
>
> >
> > Linux still supports more hardware - but the gap is nearly closed on
that
> > one (and out of the box - before kernel patches - FreeBSD may have Linux
> > beat).
> linux and BSD have been sharing device drivers, and kernel code for a
> while now.  linux took from the BSD networking code, improved on it, now
> linux has a very fast networkign stack.  BSD has taken many device drivers
> from linux, Iomega Zip paralell driver comes to mind.  To me, this is a
> good thing, sharing code is what open souce is about.
>
> >
> > If you have UltraDMA storage hardware, you can't beat FreeBSD.  Linux
does
> > not have the ATA chipset support (with or without hendrick's patches)
that
> > FreeBSD has.
> I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about, from my understanding
> FreeBSD has allways had lackluster IDE support.  as far as DMA mode, most
> distros leave DMA mode disabled by default for compatability reasons.  a
> simple /sbin/hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda turns on DMA support, making things MUCH
> faster
>
> >
> > Tom Veldhouse
> > veldy@veldy.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Opp" <cop7586@hotmail.com>
> > To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:25 AM
> > Subject: [TCLUG:22179] freeBSD
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Got a quick question-
> > >
> > > I was at the store last night and I saw freeBSD software being sold.
It
> > > grabbed my attention so I picked up the box and looked it over. Too my
> > > amazement it looks similiar to Linux. How is BSD different from Linux?
> > From
> > > what I read on the box it didn't look like much. I guess that there is
> > > probably more than meets the eye with this, so could someone please
> > > elaborate for me? I think it was version 4.4.x or something. It had
KDE
> > and
> > > I think GNOME and many of the same tools and programs as  the popular
> > linux
> > > distributions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris Opp
> > >
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