Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip

["Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>]

Yes, but that is masquerading.    That still won't work if you are
translating 192.168.0.1 to 10.0.0.1 and then the router translates the
10.0.0.1 packets to 209.32.168.1 (or whatever).  You need masquerading on
the router side.  I think the newest CBOS will do FTP for you just fine.
The key is to get another IP address for the inside of the network, such
that you can cut out the translation from 10.0.01 to 209.32.168.1.  Then
masquerading will work.  But, yet, there is another exception.  If you try
to run a Quake 3 server on a private IP and use masquerading, the server
will try to post the private IP address (192.168.0.1) to the master server
for Internet games.  Nobody will be able to get to it.  I can run the server
on my firewall/gateway box and it will be ON the net, so it will have an
actual address and it will post correctly to the master server.

I hope that all made sense and wasn't just a bunch of rambling.  :-)

Tom Veldhouse
veldy@veldy.net


----- Original Message -----
From: <Nick.T.Reinking@supervalu.com>
To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip


> Actually, if you set up a Linux IP masquerading box
> you can do active FTP, and Quake 1 stuff, and
> ICQ, etc, etc.
>
> Nick Reinking
>
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> veldy@veldy.net, on 03/21/2000 11:20:54 AM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org @ PMDF
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip
>
> It is static.  I actually bought a netblock from them.  The basic "Megabit
> Deluxe" service comes with one IP and that is assigned to your router.
The
> connection to your router from VISI (or most any other provider) is via a
> PPP connection.  Thus, your router will have to run NAT if you don't have
a
> second static IP to assign the other side of your router (your
> firewall/gateway - or your desktop).  This can force you to use passive
FTP
> and certain services don't work as well, such as a quake server.  If you
get
> the second static IP, these problems go away - which is why I did it.  I
> made setting up mail and other services a cake walk.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy@veldy.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Troy Johnson <john1536@tc.umn.edu>
> To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip
>
>
> > Cool! So, is Visi the one who would give you the static IPs in your
> > situation? I am curious because I am looking into possibly getting this
> > after I move. Is the "static" IP address they talk about here really
> > static, or is it "really close to static"? I really want to know what I
> > would be buying for the extra $14.00 a month.
> >
> > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
> > >
> > > I certainly know about them - that is exactly what I use!  I actually
> have a
> > > netblock from them, not just a single IP address.  The original
posting
> > > suggested the USWest gave out a static IP, and that, I don't believe
is
> > > true, unless you get a business account with USWest.net.
> > >
> > > Tom Veldhouse
> > > veldy@veldy.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Troy Johnson <john1536@tc.umn.edu>
> > > To: <tclug-list@mn-linux.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip
> > >
> > > > These are the pages that make me think I can get 256K DSL with a
> static
> > > > IP for ~$52.00/Month. Are there some hidden charges I can't see
here?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.visi.com/rates/dsl.html
> > > > http://www.visi.com/services/dsl_personal.html
> > > >
> > > > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't believe that USWest gives you a static IP.  I believe it
is
> a
> > > DHCP
> > > > > lease with a long term expiration date.  Perhaps it is based on
the
> > > router
> > > > > address (MAC ?), in which case, you would probably get the same IP
> every
> > > > > time.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Troy Johnson <john1536@tc.umn.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TCLUG:14977] pseudo static ip
> > > > >
> > > > > > I thought you could get:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~$38 Select DSL (dynamic, 2 hour limit)
> > > > > > ~$52 Deluxe DSL (1 static, always on)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > from USWest and Visi. Is this outdated info?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben Luey wrote:
> > > > > > > A friend of mine is in an area where he can get dsl with a
> dynamic
> > > ip
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > $40/month but the only way to get static is with the $80/mon
> > > service.
> > > > > Is
> > > > > > > there a way to fake a static ip? He has a registered domain
name
> > > wants
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > do his own e-mail (it is forwarded to his isp now) and web,
but
> not
> > > pay
> > > > > > > $80/mon.
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > >
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