Re: [TCLUG:5285] NTS4 vs. Linux study from Mindcraft.

[Bob Tanner <tanner@real-time.com>]

Pretty linux-hugger thread going here :-)

I'll speak from someone who runs both platforms on similar machines.

First, speed is important. We all want fast, faster is better, right? As an
ISP we are always looking for faster.

Second, everyone like cheaper. I don't think I need to comment on this one.

Real Time runs both Linux/Apache Solaris/Apache and NT/IIS. So, I have a
pretty good feel for all the platforms.

To me STABILITY and RELIABILITY are far more important then speed. NT/IIS
sucks for stability/reliability. Last month I made the recommendation to
terminate the NT web service we provide. Because I was getting sick of the
pages at 2am saying the service was down. We still offer the service, but
someone else admins the boxes :-)

We run mostly Solaris/Apache, which is rock solid. Unforunately Sparc hardware
is "expensive" when you look at intel hardware. So, Real Time is slowly
migrating all our UNIX web serivce to Linux/Apache.

So, MS can market the speed of IIS, but where is the stabilty survey?

I ask you, would you rather have the fastest web-server on the 'net or the
most stable?


Quoting pani@frontiernet.net (pani@frontiernet.net):
> Maybe the benchmark would make more sense if it was run on 
> machines that an average user would buy for that kind of an
> application.  How many users really have these Xeon boxes being
> used for web/file serving or planning to invest in one for the
> same purpose anyway ?  
> 
> If linux beats NT on cheaper hardware, which it most certainly
> does, which more people can afford to buy then who cares that
> NT runs faster if you add 4Gigs of RAM and 10 more processors ?
> 
> Aah well, I am just pissed off that I do not have one of those
> xeons, that is all *greeen*
> --
> sandipan
> 
> 
> Scott Dier wrote:
> > 
> > Heh, what about us pre-college but-going-to-be-CS-majors-next-fall? :)
> > 
> > Anyways, I have peeked through the smart reseller stuff.  Pretty neato
> > benchmarks, but nothing like the data from the mindcraft survey.  Really,
> > it would be cool to set it up, hammer some machines and have a managed
> > port that we could hook MRTG to or something and make some graphs.
> > Problem is, where do we get these sweet-ass boxes? :)  I only know one
> > person with a dual-celeron 504.  And thats not even a xenon.  Oh well.
> > Even if we had a ppro system we could tell what it was like comparitevly.
> > (linux vs nt vs netware etc.)  I have access to NT Enterprise through a
> > MSDN Universal subscription. (yay!) Too bad we couldn't convince my school
> > district to let us conduct an experiment at school, Maple Grove Sr. High
> > ;( (500+ pentium win95 boxen.)   Anyways.  That sparked more of a
> > discussion than I expected.  And it was on-topic.  Sweet. :)  (just
> > digging the signal-to-noise ratio here.)
> > 
> > Perhaps at the next meeting there should be a side-discussion
> > (after-major-stuff, i guess i dont know the format of the meetings (yet))
> > of interested parties to see if there is a real interest and avalibility
> > of hardware to do this.  Write it up as a report, and publish it to the
> > world at large.
> > 
> > I guess this also means that I am going to start going to tclug meetings.
> > :)
> 
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