Re: [TCLUG:5285] NTS4 vs. Linux study from Mindcraft.

[Scott Dier <dieman@ringworld.org>]

Heh, what about us pre-college but-going-to-be-CS-majors-next-fall? :)

Anyways, I have peeked through the smart reseller stuff.  Pretty neato
benchmarks, but nothing like the data from the mindcraft survey.  Really,
it would be cool to set it up, hammer some machines and have a managed
port that we could hook MRTG to or something and make some graphs. 
Problem is, where do we get these sweet-ass boxes? :)  I only know one
person with a dual-celeron 504.  And thats not even a xenon.  Oh well. 
Even if we had a ppro system we could tell what it was like comparitevly. 
(linux vs nt vs netware etc.)  I have access to NT Enterprise through a
MSDN Universal subscription. (yay!) Too bad we couldn't convince my school
district to let us conduct an experiment at school, Maple Grove Sr. High
;( (500+ pentium win95 boxen.)   Anyways.  That sparked more of a
discussion than I expected.  And it was on-topic.  Sweet. :)  (just
digging the signal-to-noise ratio here.)  

Perhaps at the next meeting there should be a side-discussion
(after-major-stuff, i guess i dont know the format of the meetings (yet))
of interested parties to see if there is a real interest and avalibility
of hardware to do this.  Write it up as a report, and publish it to the
world at large.

I guess this also means that I am going to start going to tclug meetings.
:)

Scott

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Peter Lukas wrote:

> Yeah, 'cuz we ALL know that CS majors are the bottom line when it comes to
> computers... :-)
> 
> Check out the following "more accurate" NT/Samba comparison.  It's not
> often when the free product that was reverse-engineered to be compatable
> with the real thing performs better:
> http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,396321,00.html
> 
> Peter Lukas
> U of M CS Dropout
> Non-Y2K Compliant
> 
> PS.  All you CS majors out there, no offence.
> 
> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Ben Kochie wrote:
> 
> > that's actualy a really interesting idea.. a university group of CS majors
> > to do benchmarking, and check for cheating on either side
> > 
> > Thank You,
> >         Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)
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> > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Brady Hegberg wrote:
> > 
> > > One interesting thing I saw was that Mindcraft has found that NT is also 
> > > faster than Novell and Sun servers.  I find it VERY difficult to believe 
> > > that NT is faster than Netware just because Netware has so little 
> > > overhead.  I haven't seen the Sun comparison but I would assume that's 
> > > pretty bogus too.  Novell's website stops just short of calling the 
> > > Mindcraft people idiots.
> > > 
> > > I think a study like this would be better done with 2 identical machines 
> > > and 3 teams.  A Linux team, an NT team and a client team.  The first two 
> > > teams would setup their machines and tweak them appropriately.  Then the 
> > > client team (who would be as objective as possible) would beat on them and 
> > > report the results.
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