Re: CF: more updates soon, comments/votes requested

[David Andrew Michael Noelle <dave@Straylight.org>]

> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 20:45:39 -0700
> From: Mark Wedel <mwedel@scruznet.com>
> 
> Steven Lembark wrote:

David Andrew Michael Noelle wrote:
> I hadn't thought of that.  Two players with drain attacks and potions
> of restoration could drain each other to gain experience.  There are
> three solutions to this that I can think of:
>
> 1) Don't implement drain recovery.
>
> 2) Make drain from undead recoverable, but not drain from other
>    players.
>
> 3) Don't give the attacking player any of the experience drained from
>    another player.
>
> Personally, I prefer the third option.


Steven Lembark wrote:
> i'd vote for #3 w/ a compile-time option for turning it
> off (sort of like berserk mode).  if you want a site where
> folks are polite to one another you can have it.  if you
> want a site where players can drain each other do that
> also (my server would be the former, mind you).


Mark Wedel wrote:
>  Actually, if you want players to be more aggressive, then #2 is
> probably a better idea.  The problem as stated with #3 is that
> players (if they have some restore potions), can basically get
> infinite exp.  Probably not a good idea on any server, with or
> without config option.

How's that?  If players don't get any of the experience they drain
from other players, how do they get infinite exp from restore potions?

 
>  #2 definately makes things more agressive - if another player
> drains you, you are hosed.

Precisely why I dislike that option.


>  At least one problem with player->player drain is that it can be
> unlimited. [...]

Sure, you just have to be careful not to kill them too soon...


>  I wonder if it may be more interesting to make draining weapons
> more ego item like - they will drain some amount of exp, and then be
> satiated and won't drain again for quite a while.  At least that
> way, there is some more effective limit.

Or give the other half of the drained experience to the weapon and
make it's ego increase as it gains "levels".  At some point it might
become uncontrollable and start draining your experience or something.


>  I'm a little reluctant to add more options that change gameplay,
> because that just makes things even harder to balance on the server.
> [...]

Agreed.  


Steven Lembark wrote:
> one other option: make drain from undead recoverable only from
> undead (i.e., if you run across a grim reaper then you'd better be
> prepared to drain exp from other undead's to make it up).

Mark Wedel wrote:
>  Unfortunately, most undead don't have a big exp reward, so it would
> be hard to regain it.  And of course, you need a weapon that drains,
> which may or may not be common.

I agree with Mark here.  Restoring experience by draining undead would
be /harder/ than just getting the experience back normally.

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