Re: (ASCEND) ISDN is dying out - DSL is killing it

["francois.trudeau" <francois.trudeau@dslnet.com>]

It all boils down to the fact that you can't supply the bandwidth on the
backend for those prices without oversubscribing the hell out of your
customers.  Of course all DSL companies are not offering that kind of
pricing because not all of them are planning on oversubscribing.  We charge
a lot more than $50/ month for 1.5m service, but we monitor our network for
capacity and upgrade if it hits 60% which guarantees you will see the
bandwidth you pay for.  This is not something that would be practical @
49.95/month.

Bob Atkins wrote:

> > Jack Bailey wrote:
> >
> > > Bob Atkins wrote:
> > >
> > > It is becoming painfully obvious to us that ISDN is going the way
> > > of the 9600 baud modem. We are seeing a steady migration of ISDN
> > > customers over to DSL service.
> > >
> > > Is anyone else seeing the same thing?
> >
> > Yep, and you can blame the obscene pricing.
>
> I completely agree. Sooner (more likely) or later the ISPs that are
> offering modem pricing for Megabit bandwidths are going to come to
> a grinding halt. In the meantime DSL is modem price wars all over again
> except now its invaded the leased access marketplace. I can't believe
> what I see some of our competitors doing - truely suicidal.
>
> Even the telcos don't realize how badly they are raping their *own*
> customer base. Customer's are trading in ISDN and sometimes even Frame
> Relay services that average them $300-$600/month in service charges
> (without Internet bandwidth) for their $49.95/month 1.5M/384K DSL
> Internet service (yes that's what PacBell is charging for their DSL
> line and Internet service).
>
> Sooner or later the telcos are going to realize their mistake and you
> can be sure that they'll going crying to the CPUC to raise their
> rates.  I think we (ISPs) should go to the CPUC at the same time and
> demand that they *lower* their Frame Relay and ISDN rates because they
> have demonstrated just how cheaply they can deliver similar services
> over DSL!
>
> As for other ISPs that are giving away Internet bandwidth over DSL it
> will simply be a matter of time before they melt their networks.
>
> Unfortunatly the average customer doesn't have a clue what they are
> getting into and since the DSL ISP's network isn't melting down yet the
> end user is seeing acceptable performance.
>
> ---
> Bob Atkins
> DigiLink
>
> PS: I only get the digest of this archive so feel free to cc me on
> postings.
>
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