Re: (ASCEND) Ticket #802135 - Disconnect Problems on 4048 with 7. 0.1

To: Bennie Warren <bennie@lemoorenet.com>
Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Ticket #802135 - Disconnect Problems on 4048 with 7. 0.1
From: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:22:58 -0500 (EST)
cc: "Todd A. Blank" <todd@thenap.com>, Jim Williams <jaw12@ntrnet.net>, "Mark E. Dunlap" <mdunlap@ds.net>, "Steven T. Pierce" <stp@Dynasty.Net>, ascend-users@bungi.com
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Did you have TNT's or MAXEN?



On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Bennie Warren wrote:

> I finally gave up on ascend. I went totally off the wall and tried a new
> product from a new company, Assured Access. 99% of my problems are gone. No
> more reboots. For information they are at < http://www.assuredaccess.com >.
> This is not a sales pitch but a reality check. I am finally becoming a happy
> camper. I know this forum is not a advertising forum but I got lucky met
> them at ISP con and the rest is history. Hope this doesn't p*** anyone off.
> I am also in no way affiliated with this company. I too needed a great
> product to get my customers happy.
> 
> Bennie
> **************************************
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> 
> ----------
> >From: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com>
> >To: "Todd A. Blank" <todd@thenap.com>
> >Cc: Jim Williams <jaw12@ntrnet.net>, "Mark E. Dunlap" <mdunlap@ds.net>,
> "Steven T. Pierce" <stp@Dynasty.Net>, ascend-users@bungi.com
> >Subject: RE: (ASCEND) Ticket #802135 - Disconnect Problems on 4048 with 7. 0.1
> >Date: Fri, Jan 8, 1999, 9:59 PM
> >
> 
> >
> >To be honest, I've about had it with Ascend, When it rains it fucking
> >pours over here, My problems range but are not limited to :
> >
> >1)Receiving bad hardware from the start.
> >2)Poor code, I have never been able to stabilize on any set of code.
> >3)NO regression testing out of Alamdia, NOTHING. Trained Monkeys
> >
> >
> >Let's put it this way, The last two days I have lived an absolute
> >nightmare. I don't know if many of you know this, but I've been
> >experiencing horrible problems with the New Ethernet II card on
> >the TNT's, They are SUPPOSED to be full-duplex, but due to a problem 
> >with the card they reset the link every 2 minutes when running with
> >a load 
> >
> >I suggest people run through there sys-log and look for these types of
> >messages :
> >
> >Jan  9 00:13:33 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:16:08 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:18:34 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:19:53 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:20:10 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:20:30 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:21:18 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:21:23 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:22:17 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >Jan  9 00:24:54 tnt1.lnh.md.rcn.net 1/2: 100BaseT: Link up
> >
> >So I had to back my entire network down to Half-Duplex so
> >I would not excite this issue with the box. And I'm still awaiting a 
> >fix. 
> >
> >The world needs a wake up call, Perforance, Code, Testing
> >from Ascend is on a SERIOUS down-slide. 
> >
> >Ascend has quickly gone back to the company of 2 years ago. 
> >
> >Jason Nealis
> >Director Internet Operations / Network Access
> >Erols Internet (An RCN Company)
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Todd A. Blank wrote:
> >
> >> I feel your pain brothers...
> >> 
> >> Jason - you always seem to have the inside scoop - is Ascend going to do
> >> anything about this?
> >> 
> >> Todd Blank
> >> Columbus NAP, Inc.
> >> 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Jason Nealis [SMTP:nealis@babylon.erols.com]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 10:46 PM
> >> > To: Jim Williams
> >> > Cc: Mark E. Dunlap; Steven T. Pierce; ascend-users@bungi.com
> >> > Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Ticket #802135 - Disconnect Problems on
> >> > 4048 with 7.0.1
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Join the crowd, I'm getting a TON of disconnects over here, However I
> >> > think there are other contributing factors also making things worse.
> >> > But
> >> > THERE IS A PROBLEM on my Ascend equipment, My customers/management are
> >> > getting ready to toss me the fuck out the window if I don't get
> >> > connections stable again over here. 
> >> > 
> >> > Jason Nealis
> >> > Director Internet Operations / Network Access
> >> > Erols Internet (An RCN Company)
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Jim Williams wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > I am wondering if there is anyone out there using ASCEND equipment
> >> > that is
> >> > > not having this problem!!!!  I have used Ascend equipment for almost
> >> > 3
> >> > > years and the initial equipment worked very well (under 4.X.X
> >> > software),
> >> > > but since, there have been nothing but problems (for over a year and
> >> > a
> >> > > half) and this is what I have been seeing on this list from
> >> > everyone!!  Is
> >> > > Ascend 1) just not listening, 2) just doesn't care, 3) does not have
> >> > the
> >> > > technical capability to fix the problem, 4) too busy with other
> >> > things to
> >> > > worry about it, or 5) ALL OF THE ABOVE!  I find it hard to believe
> >> > that a
> >> > > company with the reputation that Ascend used to have would allow
> >> > these
> >> > > problems to persist for over a year and a half!  What would happen
> >> > if we
> >> > > all bought boxes from someone else....appears that Ascend feels they
> >> > can
> >> > > do whatever they want and we will continue to buy, use their
> >> > products!!
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Jim Williams                  Ntrnet Systems, Inc.
> >> > > President/CEO                 Research Triangle Park, NC
> >> > > jaw12@ntrnet.net              (919)484-0504 fax(919)484-0782
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Mark E. Dunlap wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > > I can not answer what the problem is but I have some ideas.
> >> > > > I have seen problems with 33.6K modems or 56K modems that can not
> >> > > > get a good 56K connection for what ever reason.  I believe this
> >> > > > is a problem with Ascend's V.90/K56Flex support.  These same users
> >> > > > are able to dial into my Ascend 4000 with V.34 modems with out
> >> > > > any problems.  As soon as they attempt to dial one of the 56K
> >> > > > servers running even just 6.1.0 or 7.0.0, they will train for
> >> > > > ever and then hang up... Or they will connect but nothing will
> >> > > > work.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Just my 2 cents.  They may or may not mean a thing.
> >> > > > Mark E. Dunlap
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > "Steven T. Pierce" wrote:
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > I have had several users complaining of disconnects as of
> >> > recent.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We are running Ascend Max 4048 with software 7.0.1 (no OSPF or
> >> > RIP)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We have 2 locations with 144 ports (3 boxes) fed by Channelized
> >> > T1s
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We also have 2 locations with 46 / 92 ports fed by PRI.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Problems affect both locations and they are in different bell
> >> > > > > territories (Ameritech PRI and Bellsouth CT1 and PRI)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > How can I absolutely, positively guarantee that every setting in
> >> > the Max
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > does not cause idle disconnects ( under ether ... answer...  mod
> >> > > > > config... etc...)  I need explicit directions as I have double
> >> > and
> >> > > > > triple checked that I have Idle off or set to 0 (zero) every
> >> > where I can
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > find it.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > The disconnects codes being reported are :
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 11   -  DCD detected, but went inactive    (what does this mean
> >> > ?????)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 45  -   PPP LCP got terminate request from far end   (what does
> >> > this
> >> > > > > mean ?????)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 100 -   Session timeout  (what does this mean, does it indicate
> >> > that the
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Max is discontenting the user, or could it mean other things ?)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 185  -  Remote End hung up - signal lost form far end  (what
> >> > does this
> >> > > > > mean ????  what would be an example that could cause this ?)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > I need specifics and examples to provide to my customers with
> >> > the
> >> > > > > complaints as it is starting to cause me to lose business...
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Anyone on the list have any ideas ? suggestions ? help ?
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Steven T. Pierce
> >> > > > > stp@dynasty.net
> >> > > > > Dynasty Online, Inc.
> >> > > > > 
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> >> > > > > To get FAQ'd:   <http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq>
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > "Steven T. Pierce" wrote:
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > I have had several users complaining of disconnects as of
> >> > recent.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We are running Ascend Max 4048 with software 7.0.1 (no OSPF or
> >> > RIP)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We have 2 locations with 144 ports (3 boxes) fed by Channelized
> >> > T1s
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > We also have 2 locations with 46 / 92 ports fed by PRI.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Problems affect both locations and they are in different bell
> >> > > > > territories (Ameritech PRI and Bellsouth CT1 and PRI)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > How can I absolutely, positively guarantee that every setting in
> >> > the Max
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > does not cause idle disconnects ( under ether ... answer...  mod
> >> > > > > config... etc...)  I need explicit directions as I have double
> >> > and
> >> > > > > triple checked that I have Idle off or set to 0 (zero) every
> >> > where I can
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > find it.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > The disconnects codes being reported are :
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 11   -  DCD detected, but went inactive    (what does this mean
> >> > ?????)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 45  -   PPP LCP got terminate request from far end   (what does
> >> > this
> >> > > > > mean ?????)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 100 -   Session timeout  (what does this mean, does it indicate
> >> > that the
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Max is discontenting the user, or could it mean other things ?)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 185  -  Remote End hung up - signal lost form far end  (what
> >> > does this
> >> > > > > mean ????  what would be an example that could cause this ?)
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > I need specifics and examples to provide to my customers with
> >> > the
> >> > > > > complaints as it is starting to cause me to lose business...
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Anyone on the list have any ideas ? suggestions ? help ?
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Steven T. Pierce
> >> > > > > stp@dynasty.net
> >> > > > > Dynasty Online, Inc.
> >> > > > > 
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> >> > > > 
> >> > > 
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> >> > > 
> >> > 
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