So here you vote NO, and... >Yes, I think we should do BACP too. But I think it is wasteful for most >applications. ...YES. Are you running for Governor or something ;) ? >And, to be fair, MP+ is an Informational RFC, not a standard. Correct. BACP is *the* standard that was born out of the MP+ ideas... >Anyone can >write an informational RFC. I could write on to describe the high-water >mark system, but I think that would be silly. I don't think Matt was suggesting *anyone* to implement MP+, he simply mentioned that Ascend does MP+ when talking Ascend/Ascend (and a few others that did implement it - ACC comes to mind). The standards way to do *managed* BOD is BAP/BACP. There is a whole line or arguments as to why you do or don't need to use such a protocol...the bottom line is that for the most simple of cases, you would not need BACP or MP+, BUT there are advantages to having it. The only reason MP+ was ever "invented" was to solve a problem.....one that could not be solved in any other standards based way. It was implemented about 5-or-so years ago (originally on the Ascend IMUX line), and was widely used in various scenarios before BACP was conceived. Most likely, we will implement a way to do BOD without using MP+ or BACP, and have more limited control over the session. For now, as Matt pointed out, there are over 70 implementations of BACP out there which take advantage of it's control features.... Kevin ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08768.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al. (fwd)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: MegaZone <megazone@livingston.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08818.html">(ASCEND) Retrains</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08815.html">Re: (ASCEND) Zoom's driving us wacky...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08768.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al. (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08830.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al. (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail3.html#08817"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd166.html#08817"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>