I don't see the problem. We came up with a protocol that works called MP+. It's an RFC. The IETF came out with a similar standards track RFC called BACP which is in every major product (about 70 routers and TA's) except Livingston. Matt Holdrege - <A HREF="http://www.ascend.com">http://www.ascend.com</A> - matt@ascend.com ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08757.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08742.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: ascend@digistar.com</LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08725.html">(ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: James Johnson <plexus@seanet.com></LI> </UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg08754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: James Johnson <plexus@seanet.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08757.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08754.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg08757.html">Re: (ASCEND) Inter operability & BACP,DBA,BOD et. al.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="mail6.html#08756"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd165.html#08756"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>