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Re: (ASCEND) reality check!



On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Dave Van Allen wrote:

> After some discussion with Ascend, I am convinced that there was really
> nothing sinister around the removal of p23.  Although highly unusual
> (and maybe to their credit) Ascend felt that the release has serious
> implications in billing details if used without knowledge of the Radius
> fault.

 Agreed, one thing does come to mind though that may counter that statment
though, I can't remember the exact release, But somwhere in the early
5.0 or late 4.6 patch stream they left out Radius Accounting all-together.
Why didn't they pull that?

 I guess Ascend is making a firmer commitment to quality now in patch
releases. 

> 
> The engineering release that preceded p23 is, as Jason stated the best
> release so far, with many fixes and improvements. To have it work with
> radius properly is, I'm sure,  a high profile goal of Ascend right now.
 
 Correct, The Rockwell firmware is the best yet to be seen.


> Less we forget and to add some balance - Ascend, just like all of us are
> caught in a no-win situation with Flex, they have to rely on Rockwell
> for the brunt of the core code.  We as a group have chosen to delve into
> Flex early, at the request of customers who have had this crap shoved
> down their throats from every marketing faction out there.  We have to
> support this whole mess as beta testers (some would argue alpha) and
> nobody is winning right now except all of the other manufactures (Cisco,
> Livingston, Bay, et al) who have not taken a lead to bring a product to
> market and are just sitting back watching the 'collective us' and
> pioneers like Ascend work out all of the bugs for them.
> 
> I was out in CA at Ascend for a few days along with Jason and some of
> the other fine (non tie wearing folk) from Erols and one thing was clear
> - Ascend is no happier with this than we are and the "people" their are
> feverishly working on the problems.

Liver still hurts.

 
> Hopefully, with the eventual release of p24, along with some of the OSPF
> work we did out there, a very near release of the Max code will offer
> stability and functionality while still being a long way ahead of the
> competition.  And that's why we have all bought Ascend in the first
> place.  IMHO, I do not see us being disappointed for much longer.


Hopefully is the key word here, I've been hoping for approx 10 months now.
In the past quality was job X.apX , Always we had to look to the
next patch release for quality, And with that patch release we had to wait
for the next. I hope Ascend has gotten the wake up call and they
understand that for us and them to move forward in the world we need
stability. 


Jason Nealis
Director Internet Operations
Network Access
Erols Internet


> Just my $.02
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation
> dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net
> FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions
> 
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:	Ralf Niederhuefner [SMTP:rn@prolink.de]
> >Sent:	Tuesday, September 09, 1997 11:47 AM
> >To:	ascend-users@bungi.com
> >Subject:	AW: (ASCEND) Ascend Patch 5.0ap23?
> >
> >> > > possible that the software could be harmful to operations. Folks who do
> >> > > billing based on radius accounting could possibly be affected.
> >
> >> > How? I don't see how they are affected, There is still and Start and Stop
> >> > recorded for each users, (And that is what ISP's bill on) This only
> >> > problem that I can see is that you can not track down abusive users. 
> >
> >> Obviously there is a more SERIOUS problem with ap23 than they want
> >> us to believe.
> >
> >For sure. I bet the CIA is behind that ...
> >BTW, did the mercedes of Lady Di run on ap23 ??!?!??
> >
> >Come on.
> >- Ralf
> >
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