On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, Iznogoud wrote: > A year is a long time. I would have quit trying long before that. I kinda did give up. It had been improving, presumably because of kernel upgrades. The only reason I found out about the Ryzen issue was that I was looking at new laptops -- "does this one work with with Linux?" -- and I found that an HP laptop with AMD Ryzen processor was said to suffer from that Ryzen bug (that I hadn't heard of). I bought mine last July and it looks like most of the talk about it came out in February, so there wasn't much out there about it when I was looking back in July and August last year. > I have not gone ot kernel 4 yet; I am still on 3. Really, until I need > the functionality of something new, I do not just do it for the sake of > doing it. Newest is not always better, and latest does not mean > "bug-free." A colleague has had an issue on an a particular HPC system > and the latest HDF5 library. He ended up spending a lot of time on it, > and I even had to write a tester for him to pass to the OpenGroup so > that they can fix their distro. Distractions I do not need... Right. If it ain't broke ... But sometimes it is broke! It seems like a lot of devices work better with a newer kernel. Right now I'm working on a new laptop where the wifi isn't working (HP with Realtek RTL8822BE), but I'm told that the newest kernels support it. The problem is, I need to install software to make it work, but that's hard to do with no networking (there is no ethernet on the laptop). More on that in a separate post. Mike