Violating nettiquette, I'll post at top... You can still use cloud services--at least some... JUST ENCRYPT IT FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. =====================≠ There's gpg by GNU at the very least.. I'm not sure what's on Android; I don't do iPhones. LATER... ~ Steve ~ On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 07:15:05AM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote: > > > > > > > One of the things I have become quite anal about is my information being > > > out of > > > my control. This limits me to not using cloud services. For me - - - I > > want > > > no one > > > else to own nor to control my information, this makes me quite reluctant > > to > > > even > > > use web based services. I am finding that even this has a lot of > > unattended > > > difficulties! > > > > > > > I understand. I empathize. I encourage your behaviour. You are doing it > > right. > > learn, and keep things under your control. > > > > Thank you for understanding - - - I have found quite a few 'computer' > people who > think I'm being silly - - - in other words - - - the cloud is great what > are you worried > about. > > > > > > > OK, so skip the virtual server. Keep a box at home, and follow what I said > > about forwarding ports (both 80 and the https one... 443 or something), and > > directing CNAME nameserver entries at your domain registrant to point home. > > Do all internal testing of Horde on your own, with /etc/hosts and the like. > > But I can guarantee you that when your mailserver goes out and into > > production, > > you WILL have issues with its integrity, i.e. other mailservers will want > > you > > to have SMTP authentication, not be black- or gray-listed, and various > > other > > attributes. > > > > It will almost become a part-time job, and do budget for it in your > > business > > plan, that you will spend some of your time on IT-related crap that is > > simply > > imposed on you from the outside. (That is why IT is a big business.) > > > > Take LOTS of notes, and have a logbook for _everything_ that you do or > > change > > on hte system, with a date and time recorded. Thank me later. > > > > Have been trying to do the notes thing - - - it never seems to be enough > and they > need to be kept on paper because of course those notes are most needed when > the > system that they are on is sick itself - - - grin! > > There are no plans on make the mailserver a real 'live' edition. At most > this is going > to be for internal use only. That should change things quite a bit. The > whole information > gathering sorting and storing is becoming a huge time pit. Yet it all needs > doing - - - > it doesn't help that I'm trying to do something hugely complex either. But > then I've upped > my skills in a number of areas already and am looking at a few more - - - > partial > differential equations anyone? > > > > > As for your other, business development related comments, you are welcome. > > I > > do understand that the regulators are always there to make things harder > > for > > you, but there is always a reason for it, and they are merely doing their > > job. > > Your job is to work within the (bureaucratic) framework that is there. It > > is > > good to have your own business and control your own fate. You are doing it > > right. If it were not worth it, we would be living in a uber-socialist or a > > presumably communist society. No... It pays to have your own business, > > otherwise > > private enterprise would not exist! > > > > The argument that the regulators are 'just doing their jobs' to me seems > quite similar > to the arguments presented in the Nuremberg trial in the late 1940s. There > are no > reasons to support mindlessly doing destructive practices. > > It would seem, given the government's propensity for taxing the crap out of > businesses > that business is easy to do rather than the opposite. If only governments > could realize > that they themselves have now become the major impediment to the long term > financial health of our nations! > > Regards > > Dee > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Name: Steve Trapp Location: Just east of the Missippi River Email-address: stevetrapp<AT>comcast<DOT>net Homepage: comcast DROPPED ALL HOMEPAGES--Where do I put my PGP public key now?