It seems like all the things I don't like in Ubuntu are coming from dbus and gtk. I don't understand what I should be doing about this severe system failure. If it was just the window manager crashing, why couldn't I ssh into the box or even see it on the network? Do you really think I should replace 17.04 with 16.04 LTS? On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote: > I was going to say "there is a dbus in there" but Linda made my point for me. > > Had similar symptoms of crashes not involving dbus and being related to nouveau > but I could always log into the system and issue a proper shutdown. This one was > a nasty one... dbus. > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list