Thank you for your offer Ryan and i hope it stands. i want to do this. off
list doesn't help document any processes. i have nothing that i want to
keep off list at this point. i am sure i will be needing help in the future
so with your permission if i don't see you respond i will ask you off list
also.

working with Slitaz now to try and cook up a "flavor" to include at least 1
mesh protocol to start. then work my way to multiple protocol support. i
found 3 newer protocols or so that are being used and i don't want to force
people to do use specific protocols but to use the disk that came in the
mail/magazine and have it work in their existing mesh network. i never do
anything the easy way, it has to be complicated, but thorough. i figure a
small distro that leaves space on cd's of usb sticks for multimedia
documentation.

and don't get hung up on the anonymity piece. i have no interest in tor for
this project. but as far as logging into my mesh network i would offer
service alerts (like avahi for service alerts, but for end users; it would
be like email, sms, #topic or something easy) or just access; since a mesh
network could in a sense have nothing to offer anyone and still be
accessible. in other words while you are a member of my mesh network you
will get an alert that someone has offered access to the internet by
plugging in their node to the access point. or a twitter/facebook replica
is available. or that it has become unavailable.
focus on the anonymous part is not the place i want to put too much focus.
not until i have a grasp on everything else and we have a functioning
model.

*then i will look into various sign in protocols so if you just want to
check and see what services are available you don't have to dish out your
email or cell phone number, but still be offered service alerts. that there
is the real nuts and bolts of the anonymity part.*

i may not have the best understanding of this yet but even if i am doing it
all wrong i have time to tear it all down and start from scratch with a new
and improved version of what i have in my head. sometimes that is the cost
of education. if i have to do it 3 times it is usually because i am still
schooling myself. 4 times is annoying and i have to consider trashing
projects.

Thank you all for taking the time to play around with the mesh network
idea. i think it is a lot of fun!

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz> wrote:

> If you wanted to have this conversation with me regarding design and
> private security you should have messaged me privately off the list.
>
> And I would have ignored your third response like I did on here.
>
> Paranoia has no place on the internet. Why? Because everything you do is
> logged. There’s no point. If you want anonymity I suggest going offline or
> using TOR and then be prepared to discover that the feds are watching you
> even closer, even if they don’t know WHO you are.
>
> I’m done with this subject. Anyone that wants to discuss the best
> deployment practices of a MESH network please message me off list.
>
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> i am talking with people from the list directly about this mesh since it
> is part of my talk on linux i am giving to the school administrators. so
> this is important to me, not as important as raising my 4 kids, but i need
> to have answers to questions from the principal and IT directors and
> without asking some myself things are difficult.
> if i am to give them a mesh system i need to have perecpective and my my
> perspective is simply mine; i want other angles and protocols and
> internals. i am using other peers from other resources; none of them have
> offered to donate 2 working nodes like tom poe did on this list (this
> particular TCLUG list on this particular thread). i can move on or i can
> keep this list up to date with some of the progress, or not.
> Honestly, i am impressed that you use vi for email; i am working on not
> using the gui and learning as many stock unix commands as i can.
>
> MESH NETWORKS..... more than just your random conversation. Physical
> connections made between TCLUG members which will hopefully lead to
> goodwill and better friendships, or not.
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > What is linux and what is it good for. who decides what is on topic, off
>> > topic, short, long, properly formated. so many negative opinions. i
>> choose
>> > this as one of my peer groups because of the size of the demographic.
>>
>> Relax. That project is Linux based, and it is totally relevant. I did not
>> think the topic of the uses and management of mesh networks, etc, was
>> Linux-centric. Maybe I am wrong and it was my opinion that was offered.
>>
>> Let's move on to more productive uses of our time.
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