Good suggestion! Traceroute or one of its relatives sometimes identifies equipment also. _____ From: Wayne Johnson [mailto:wdtj at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 5:19 PM To: Chuck Cole; 'TCLUG Mailing List' Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Need basic internet access info for a large facility Another tool you can use is traceroute (or tracert on Windows). Works like ping but walks through the route and gives response times at each step. Example: C:\Users\C9915437\Dev\trunk\yukon-server>tracert 10.106.43.16 Tracing route to 10.106.43.16 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms 6 ms 9 ms 10.106.38.2 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.106.39.101 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.106.43.16 Here I pinged a device in out test network (different subnet). It showed we went to my local gateway, to the test network gateway, and then to the end device. You might try this with yahoo.com to see what is happening on the way to the internet. --- Wayne Johnson, | There are two kinds of people: Those | who say to God, "Thy will be done," | and those to whom God says, "All right, | then, have it your way." --C.S. Lewis _____ From: Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> To: 'Wayne Johnson' <wdtj at yahoo.com>; 'TCLUG Mailing List' <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [tclug-list] Need basic internet access info for a large facility Thanks Wayne! Signal strength isn't bad. They have 3 access points that seem to be distributed around the large building for each of the 3 wifi SSIDs. At least one of the 3 for each SSID is usually plenty good. I have good wifi utilities in both Android and PC, but I haven't written down the actual signal strength numbers. Chuck _____ From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:58 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Need basic internet access info for a large facility Not an expert here, but first question I would ask is what is the signal strength? I've seen facilities like these that have cinderblock walls separating each apartment. Cinder block is not friendly to wi-fi. USI has the same problem in Minneapolis with their community wifi. It doesn't go through stucco real well. 1-2 bars is not adequate for a decent wi-fi connection in my experience. There are some nice tools for Android that can scan and graph wi-fi signal strengths. WifiAnalizer from VREM Software works well with me. --- Wayne Johnson, | There are two kinds of people: Those | who say to God, "Thy will be done," | and those to whom God says, "All right, | then, have it your way." --C.S. Lewis _____ From: Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net> To: 'TCLUG Mailing List' <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:31 PM Subject: [tclug-list] Need basic internet access info for a large facility Need wifi setup or management parameter help.. Some blind folk at Cherrywood Pointe (senior living) in Savage have tech support from MN Services for the Blind for Dragon (and related) screen reading software which needs internet to function properly. Cherrywood is an Ebenezer managed facility with about 70 "independent living" residents who are cabalbe and typically affluent (rent is quite high). Wifi is included in rent. The wifi connection is erratic, and at such low speed that the software doesn't work. I'm trying to help identify the problems so thet can be fixed. "Bandaids" used before have not worked. What is a typical building setup? My info is only approximate now. Centurylink has a "big" fiber-optic feed to the equipment room. Cherrywood/Ebenezer equipment in the "communications room" converts to wire distribution. There is a "building router" that has multiple "CAT5" feeds that support offices and 3 pairs of access points that distribute wifi in the facility . All I need to know is basic bandwidth and connection info: I do not need to know anything private, and do not seek any actual admin access. What is a likely building router make and model? What is a likely wifi access point make and model? Are there typical bandwidth or speed restrictions affecting residents and guests? The connection speed of the 802.11g/n links is usually only 11MHz, and only once in a while 54MHz. The internet speed is usually only about 1.5 mb/sec, and occasionally 3 mb/sec or so. Those numbers seem far below a typical "wifi hotspot" connection. I've never experienced such bad connections as these. What does a typical hotspot like a Dunn Bros coffee shop offer? Please assist as you can. Chuck Cole _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20161021/2022f51c/attachment.html>