http://b1tsh1fter.blogspot.ca/2015/04/scalable-mesh-network-wifi-1.html

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> it doesn't look like the rotary 4 way test i live my life by isn't showing
> up. here is a link if you are interested.
> http://www.rhhif.org/FourWayTest.cfm
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The 4-Way Test
>> Of the things we think, say or do:
>>
>>
>> Is it the TRUTH?
>> Is it FAIR to all concerned?
>> Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
>> Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan Coleman their website was down as i had talked to them on the
>>> phone and they told me. you seem to be angry about something. would you
>>> care to elaborate on your attack? you seem to be against the idea of a
>>> think tank. before the internet i used to buy a case of beer and go to a
>>> mechanics shop and learn how to swap out engines and such. so much more
>>> work than looking on the internet. i have no desire to be anon. i merely
>>> suggest that people, not everyone is like you, seem to care about privacy.
>>> i appreciate your response, but i have to say you sound like you are being
>>> a dick and almost sound ignorant of the ideas that i have. curious, what
>>> did you do before the internet, where you a troll then too?
>>>
>>> I have spent several hours reading about and i can tell that there is so
>>> much out there and in many different directions. my ideas are leading
>>> me to some more ideas. open existence. a group similar to tclug to
>>> answer questions from how to start a fire with 2 sticks to how to put
>>> power back into the grid. i seen a man working in his garage and i
>>> thought there is a man who can do something by himself without relying
>>> someone else to do it for him. what if i had a disk full of free and
>>> openly distributable information on how to make generator (a piece of
>>> wire and a magnet isn't difficult to understand), how to farm, how to
>>> build a $50 underground house , etc,; basically a disk full how to not
>>> rely on the value or the dollar, while allowing you to put electric into
>>> the local grid, food into the local area, mesh communication using
>>> your existing radio/cell phone.  less big bank and more community.
>>> (yeah, i pulled out the conspiracy theory card -ryan you
>>> going to run with this?)
>>> a group of people who care about community and people, when the power
>>> goes out the local generators feed into the network. when
>>> phones are out mesh keeps communications going.
>>> Think like a Rotarian here people. not everyone is a recluse troll type,
>>> many people want to go out of their homes and comfort zones
>>> and communicate with like minded people and try and improve the lives
>>> of people (rich/poor young/old am kindergarten/ pm kindergarten)
>>> That is what research does to me. i think in terms of people, not money
>>> or power.
>>>
>>> The 4-Way Test
>>>
>>> Of the things we think, say or do:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1.
>>>
>>>    Is it the TRUTH?
>>>    2.
>>>
>>>    Is it FAIR to all concerned?
>>>    3.
>>>
>>>    Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
>>>    4.
>>>
>>>    Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?
>>>
>>> I am not against harsh answers, even though they discourage me from
>>> trying to do good, i will play along though. i hope you (my tclug peers)
>>> understand if i get a little rude at times when i am discouraged. my
>>> apologies if i upset anyone. i will do my best to separate content with
>>> paragraphs. i am putting random ideas on tclug. connect mesh with linux
>>> here: http://project-byzantium.org/ connect tclug with community and
>>> making the world a better place for everyone; read the threads, we do that
>>> here.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman at cwis.biz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it wouldn't have to be anon i just assume that is a concern to people.
>>>> granted i have a limited understanding of mesh, but that doesn't mean that
>>>> it can't be imagined in a different light. the general idea is when
>>>> you hook up and are given an ip address you could be given alerts. how you
>>>> get these alerts and whether or not there is hardware on the node/router
>>>> unit in your home is what the question is.
>>>> lets say the sirens go off, yes the air raid sirens are our alert
>>>> system out here, and the fire dept volunteers are up and running. lets say
>>>> the sirens are out due to power loss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually that’s the case everywhere in this fine country. We just
>>>> called them tornado sirens but they’re classified as “civilian alert
>>>> sirens” but I digress. And if they are without power (because the required
>>>> generator [2 I think?] is dead then they send someone to fix that and get
>>>> it back up. When the CAS are without power that’s a liability for the
>>>> county and they tend to give them first attention to get fixed which is why
>>>> most municipalities test them more than the one day a month that Hennepin
>>>> County tests them. I know Olmsted tests theirs every Wednesday morning with
>>>> a growl test. I also know that Appleton, Wisconsin, fires theirs at 1pm
>>>> every weekday. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> the fireman have a node and it alerts them according to the sign in
>>>> they used that had required them to choose which alerts to get or whether
>>>> or not to get them at all. teacher is at school and ships out homework. a
>>>> child at home receives alerts due to the sign in system which makes you
>>>> choose which alerts to receive or whether to receive them at all. the city
>>>> has a meeting and someone wants to watch but doesn't want the city hall
>>>> people to know for whatever reason; idk there could be a reason to be
>>>> anonymous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don’t see how this analogy equates… text alerts are better one - the
>>>> CAS are there for all to hear whether they want to or not. Sometimes
>>>> they’re late, sometimes not.
>>>>
>>>> DYK you can opt out of the amber alerts and weather alerts on your cell
>>>> phone? Ahyep. https://www.google.com/?q=opt%20out%20of%20amber%20al
>>>> erts%20on%20mobile
>>>>
>>>> i am so busy right now that i am not doing my due diligence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paragraphs might help. :)
>>>>
>>>> but i don't want to forget a good idea or sit and think about a good
>>>> idea when it is in reality not a good idea. as i wrap my head around this i
>>>> realize that there is nothing written in stone, not all ideas are going to
>>>> work, and that there is still much for me to learn.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you want true anonymity either use TOR or GOML, unplug your
>>>> computer, take the battery out of your smart phone and sell your car. This
>>>> isn’t the 1850s anymore and we’ve had a long time to get used to the
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> School talk is taking most of my time right now. and this clover pos
>>>> system. i did security research on it for a business out here. while i was
>>>> trying to learn about it their website went down. i am like wow they can't
>>>> handle html but they are providing a secure pos system? but mostly the
>>>> school talk is my focus for the next week here. i will offer more sound
>>>> (but still odd) ideas in the near future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You’d be amazed how often you think someone’s website is down and, in
>>>> reality, your link to their host’s system is down. I don’t want a product
>>>> that spends thousands of dollars a year on a website that glitters in the
>>>> sunlight if they have a solid product and stand behind it.
>>>>
>>>> What did you do before we had internet? :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 02:02:53PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > MESH networks do not have AP capabilities. They are nodes that are
>>>>> designed to allow for self-healing and then, from there, you have your APs.
>>>>> That’s the proper design, anything more complicated would probably either
>>>>> fail in a short period of time or be very overwhelmed.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> What this person said.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no need for anyone to have any more accounts... This is
>>>>> purely an
>>>>> access mechanism that is "self healing" (in lack of a better phrase).
>>>>> And
>>>>> there can certainly be limits that are put on access so that abuse is
>>>>> kept
>>>>> to a minimum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Accounts go with account/service providers. Use "twitter" for example
>>>>> and
>>>>> have the mesh be a medium. No?
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