also i am sure you can imagine how well Linux works with indigenous
governments, individuals who are poor, and/or people new to computers.
people who are new to computers i will use Linux because of how i seen it
affect people who had volunteered at the chamber. i put Linux in as much as
i can for people who look to me for advice and to learn. I can see a need
for installing windows in a machine for someone who absolutely is convinced
that they will miss out if they use Linux since interest is a factor in
learning, i just try and remember who they are and try and learn what they
end up using it for so i can find open source "alternatives" for then and
try and draw their interest in these "alternatives"; even though to me
windows is sorta an alternative (one i rarely think about).

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>
wrote:

> rick e i love your story. i may not be native, never did the dna thing
> yet, and from what i understand there is no reason to be offended by
> anything you have said. reminds me of the story of hennipen ave you don't
> often hear. hennipen ave started out as a deer trail. when you hit uptown
> there used to be a lake there towards lyndale. the natives would follow the
> deer trail. it became a native trail at that point. eventually it turned
> into the road you see today complete with removed lake.
> natives have a tendency to kill themselves at an alarming rate. may of
> them inwardly dislike themselves and many hate the "invaders" and as i have
> spent 20 years immersed in this culture i can see many of the reasons why.
>  we make them keep their AKC (american kennel club) type rating of 25% or
> they are no longer a member of THEIR tribe. to maintain the native status
> they must stay within their own tribe to keep it. there is financial
> devastation on most reservations, in the USA, and to stay on the land to
> keep their tribe alive is torment and trouble. it is failing and it has
> been failing for as far back as i can tell from what i have learned.
> i encourage all of you to look into this. nothing we can do (?) but it is
> important to understand. we tried to have a site to sell goods from the
> indigenous cultures so they can have income which is where the trouble all
> starts. lack of resources in a small chunk of land; not to mention that the
> leaders of these people are often like me and you with no help to
> understand how to even build infrastructure. Yes prior lake is close to the
> city so they get money from the casino, even with all that money you would
> be surprised how difficult it is to understand and build infrastructure on
> a small square when they are simply people like me and you. we would go
> reservation to reservation, ahhhhh.. it is hard for people who really don't
> want to ask for help to fully grasp what is expected from them in their
> respective gov positions, especially without resources.
>
> i am glad that the opening speech encouraged more conversation. i am going
> to work on a 3 ring folder now. may call some of the larger businesses in
> this state, and get some contacts for whomever wants, to call and verify
> that the apparantly invisible and illusive Linux actually exists and skills
> translate to jobs.  translates to jobs is my main focus. no code lock is
> another problem that i wish to document. who knows anything about this EPIC
> system that the hospitals use. any one have any ammo to bash this including
> code lock; do they still use xp with those systems? ( i hope someday when i
> type xp and other wndows type things that people will be like WHAT? what is
> an xp.....
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Iznogoud <iznogoud at nobelware.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe TCLUG and the Penguins can have a VR setup at next years Northern
>> Spark.
>>
>> Or better yet, see if a 3rd Thursday at MIA can have some "do crap with
>> open
>> source software" activity. Takes planning and volunteers (do not look at
>> me).
>>
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