rick i am honestly impressed with their desire to work with me. i imagine the political barries will show up though. On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Rick Engebretson <eng at pinenet.com> wrote: > When my kids were in High School I tried working with our school district > (Mora, MN.) in about 1998 just to get programming taught, somewhere. The > school used all Macs but had at least one MSWindows 95 in some kind of lab. > On a day they canceled school because of an ice storm I called and they > said I could install the QBasic from Windows, along with program examples > galore. So I left my kids home and drove to town and installed it all. I > later went to school board meetings and they fought me until my kids all > graduated. "Political" is an understatement. > > I use Linux because I can program it. I don't know how kids can make it in > the future without knowing electronics and programming. It seems they are > trying to cripple kids with sports, and retard them intellectually. It sure > wasn't that way in the 1960s. > > > Linda Kateley wrote: > >> >> I started working with my school district about 10 years ago. The >> problems I find there are always political and never about technology. >> >> What worked for me is to find one champion in the system that speaks the >> administrations language. I found there were a ton of people who wanted to >> know, just not at the top. >> >> I introduced scratch to the elementary STEM school about 5 years ago, >> https://scratch.mit.edu/. It was the districts first involvement with >> opensource or community. The project has been very very successful and it >> opened the doors to more. But then they hired a new superintendent that >> thought it was stupid so..that happened ;( >> >> linda >> >> >> On 8/21/16 10:43 AM, Sandwhich Eyes wrote: >> >>> I have already given one presentation at the Blair Taylor School with >>> the principal and an IT guy and have been asked to give a follow up talk to >>> them and the head of the IT department. >>> They had macbook air for the older kids and ipads for the younger >>> ones. They bring these home at the end of the school day. This time they >>> decided to go with cromebooks. It one of the best.. rated or testing, can't >>> think of an appropriate word, but with the quality of the teachers out here >>> i am pretty sure they could give my kids sticks and a box of sand and they >>> would still be well prepared for life on their own/college. I am 100% >>> positive they will be much better off if they can learn without >>> restrictions from open source hardware, software, classes (like MIT offers >>> open courseware) and the ability to choose, to not be scolded for breaking >>> some license agreement or for reading and modifying code should that be an >>> interest. I want them to have Linux. >>> I have gave a compelling argument in the last meeting. This time I >>> want to have as many resources available to provide for them, including >>> reasons why schools frequently choose to not use Linux. Anything will help. >>> I had quite the presentation last time and the IT guy didn't know what Unix >>> or BSD 4.4 was; or Linux, BSD, Solaris. Seems Ubuntu provides computers >>> reloaded with Linux and tablets so how they didn't find anything about open >>> source or Linux/BSD/ETC is beyond me. I gave them a live Ubuntu OS on a >>> thumb drive. I wanted to make some more and use persistence to load up some >>> information to give to the IT people who are possibly way under informed, >>> to give them plenty of time on their own to absorb what open source has to >>> offer; mostly community! >>> They asked many questions about community. Yes we work together and >>> keep our favorite distributions alive often without corporate support! >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20160822/3fd853ff/attachment.html>