Again, I think you’re needing to re-consider your stance. If my phone is stolen and they turn it off (I have find my phone turned on and running, thank you very much) I want to make sure no one OTHER THAN MYSELF can use it. Why? Because this phone costs me over $800 when all is said and done (after subsidies paid in higher rates over a specified period of time). In Minnesota theft of over $500 is a felony. This is a felony that is almost impossible to trace. How do you suggest we curb it? We have the technology, why shouldn’t we use it? Paranoia isn’t an reason, it’s a symptom. On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Tom Poe <tompoe at meltel.net> wrote: > On 01/29/2014 01:17 PM, Mike Miller wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Tony Yarusso wrote: >> >>> Right now the carrier can kill your phone at any time. >>> >>> This bill would let YOU kill your phone at any time. >> >> >> Is that correct? I think Max is right about this being the sort of issue we should be keeping an eye on. I'm not clear at all on what this bill would require. The bill is requiring that their be some mechanism whereby the phone can be shut off somehow, not just as a cell phone, but also as a WiFi device. >> >> I don't even understand how that would work. I do understand the goal - to make stole phones worthless, which sounds like a good idea. It might save lives (as the article says - people have been killed for their cell phones). >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >> >> > Rules and regulations pertaining to manufacture of devices is one thing. Codifying through legislative acts is another. Our government has rules and regulations on the use of Open Source software in government devices. Has our government codified those rules through legislative acts? If not, why not? Some are using the logic that people are killed over cell phones. I haven't heard any support that a kill switch deters further thefts or deaths. Begs the question as to why the kill switch needs to be legislated at this time. Begins to sound like the legislation that followed years of surveillance conduct that the legislature gave the phone companies. > Tom > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list