If you would like to have a speaker on zfs, that is my area of expertise.

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On 11/25/13 2:08 PM, John Frisk wrote:
> Having helped out to run the Penguins Unbound group I like the ideas 
> Michael and Erik have proposed.  Even though Penguins Unbound has had 
> InstallFests centered around Ubuntu, we just had our InstallFest in 
> November and there was Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc. all tried out. I 
> believe there will always be a place for activities like that in which 
> one could say it falls in the eco-system of Linux.
> Going forward there are several great ideas proposed for future topics 
> (ZFS, Puppet) for the group.   These will not be Ubuntu or even Linux 
> specific per se but have ties the IT professional community in general 
> (and happen to run on Linux).
>
> I would support meeting in January to refocus the group.  I think the 
> mailing list serves its purpose for a casual question/communication 
> vehicle but I am unaware if the TCLUG has met (other than to 
> occasional social event).
>
> I would even propose a straw man that really centers around the IT 
> professional community that has tracks (like a conference).
> These tracks could include something like: applied languages (java, 
> ruby, php), operating system focus (android, BSD, et. all), 
> scripting/automation, etc.  Each track could meet whenever it wanted 
> assuming some volunteer to manage said track.  There are already 
> groups that have this focus and maybe they would (if they wished) 
> coordinate and/or run the track. In short, I'm proposing that while a 
> Linux User Group is definitely a piece of the fabric of the IT 
> community, the fabric is rich and should be flexible to the other 
> pieces of fabric to promote computing in general.  The refocus could 
> help bring out the focus around Linux and what is needed by our 
> community in the Twin Cities.
>
> Count me in to be willing to assist.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Michael Moore <stuporglue at gmail.com 
> <mailto:stuporglue at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         There seemed to be a great deal of interest in desktop Linux
>         10 to 15 years ago. Local Linux events were well attendend.
>         Apple was languishing and a lot of smart people were trying to
>         do what they could to avoid Microsoft's apparent monopoly of
>         everything.
>
>
>     10 years ago you pretty much needed local Linux support because
>     you were going to have some sort of install problem. If you were
>     coming from Windows you might not have ISO burning software so
>     even getting a CD might be difficult. If you got past install, you
>     might need to compile a kernel to get support for some specific
>     piece of hardware.
>
>     Users coming into Linux now are likely to discover it online,
>     discover support communities online and ask for help in
>     distro-specific forums instead of joining a local LUG.
>
>         But these days? Look around. It would appear desktop Linux is
>         increasingly becoming more and more obscure as people move on
>         to their Macs, iPads, iPhones and Android devices.
>
>         Who runs Linux on the desktop these days? A few Unix
>         graybeards (myself included) and some stubborn idealists. All
>         the cool kids have MacBook Pros.
>
>         Ironically, in many ways, given the rise of the web and the
>         corresponding reduction in importance of the Windows based
>         application ecosystem, it's never been a better time to run
>         Linux on the desktop. We've got a few high quality web browers
>         and email clients at our disposal. PC hardware to run Linux on
>         has never been more affordable. And Linux installs in a breeze.
>
>
>     I think Linux use has become more mainstream, and users aren't and
>     don't have to be as vocal about it. I heard a discussion between
>     non-technical people at church a while back about the merits of
>     Mint vs. Ubuntu. Some of the people installing Linux today are the
>     ones who 10 years ago would've been called on to remove adware
>     from a relative's computer.
>
>     10 years ago, the local LUG (at least where I was) was also the
>     primary place to go to for other technical help like scripting,
>     web development, tech job hunts and other things that aren't
>     strictly Linux related. The LUG was simply the watering hole for
>     local tech savvy population. (REALLY Off topic material had to
>     have "OT" in the subject line). If you're going to get into
>     scripting today you might be better off joining a Python or Ruby
>     mailing list rather than one focused on Linux.
>
>     If Linux and tech users are headed to distro/topic specific
>     support groups it does raise the question of what the purpose of a
>     local LUG is. If it's just to hang out online and handle the
>     occasional Linux related email, then the current state of the
>     mailing list probably mostly fine. If we want to have a more
>     defined purpose then Erik's proposed January meeting sound like an
>     important chance to refocus the group.
>
>     --
>     Michael Moore
>
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