I started out with Red Hat as well, at RH7. Here's my history RH7 - RH9 Then moved onto... Slackware Got tired of the crappy package management and switched to... Fedora Realized that wasn't the RH I loved and switched to... Debian And then after getting tired of Debian taking so long to release new major versions... Ubuntu, which I've been using since. It may be bloated, but overall its an extremely nice distribution and as long as you have a computer that's 5 years of age or less it functions very well. The development scene is better than any other distribution I've used. Plus, I can get on board with the whole idea of making Linux easier to use. Linux will never become widespread unless the general public feels its easy _and_ powerful. I would gather that 98% of computer users like ease of use over complexity and raw power. -Adam