http://www.qwest.com/#offers

Put in your phone number and see if they offer you the 40Mb/20Mb service.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Adam Morris
<adam.morris at redstargaming.net> wrote:
> Excuse me if this was already mentioned, but I deleted a bunch of messages from this thread earlier.  Is there some way to find out if Qwest has VDSL in Eagan yet?
>
> -Adam
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:02:09PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> Precisely. I'm not willing to pay for a service that isn't up to snuff because of their hardware needing an upgrade.
>>
>> Qwest's installation technician and customer support we're more than cooperative with this tech's findings.
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Nate Carlson wrote:
>>
>> > Ahhh, got'cha - so that points to the issue being with Qwest.net getting
>> > your traffic out of the area at a reasonable speed (if you get good speeds
>> > from that link, assuming it's actually doing a speedtest and not just
>> > looking at your account, it means that the chokepoint is behond that
>> > point..)
>> >
>> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> >> I ran this one: http://minneapolis.speedtest.qwest.net/
>> >>
>> >> Which was what the technician ran that gave me the 16Mbps speed. As you
>> >> can see in the data block there is only one other test provider that got
>> >> that high: auditmypc.com.
>> >>
>> >> Comcast speeds
>> >> Site                               Down    Up
>> >> Speedtest          22.01   2.66
>> >> Speakeasy          5.10    2.62
>> >> bandwidthpalce     12.23   2.35
>> >> auditmypc          20.87   3.51
>> >> internetfrog               5.09    1.53
>> >> DSLreports         22.15   2.55
>> >> toast.net                  4.56    NA
>> >> visualware.com     9.37    2.58
>> >> testinternetspeed  1.71    2.02
>> >> whatsmyip.com      20.67   2.46
>> >> AVG                        12.38   2.48
>> >> Qwest SpeedTest
>> >>                            24.89   2.505
>> >> Diff                               -12.61  -0.25
>> >>                            -50.6%  -0.99% speed loss.
>> >>
>> >> Qwest speeds
>> >> Site                               Down    Up
>> >> Speedtest          2.59    0.72
>> >> Speakeasy          4.17    0.73
>> >> bandwidthpalce     2.67    0.70
>> >> auditmypc          18.26   0.76
>> >> internetfrog               0.80    0.60
>> >> DSLreports         2.88    0.69
>> >> toast.net                  0.75    NA
>> >> visualware.com     2.09    0.72
>> >> testinternetspeed  1.88    0.70
>> >> whatsmyip.com      6.62    0.71
>> >> AVG                        4.27    0.70
>> >> Qwest SpeedTest
>> >>                            16.64   0.78
>> >> Diff                               -12.37  -0.08
>> >>                            -74.3%  -10.3% speed loss.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this is more legible for you guys...  I know the Comcast does "speed boost" bursting which can account for some of the fluctuation, but the DSL should be a steady, consistent speed.
>> >>
>> >> There was nothing else plugged into the DSL or Phone system except for the modem itself. It's not a perfect experiment - that would be a reboot of each system and waiting 30 minutes between tests, something that with 10 downloads to test would have taken days to complete.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ryan
>> >>
>> >> P.S. Nate - I know about overhead, even giving them 30-35% just to be nice; I've been a network technician for years in Windows, Mac and various flavors of *nix for the last ten years, and I was an early adopter of DSL in 1999. This is more a showing people my experiences with their "FIOS" connection which is a false advertising lead, IMHO, and fails to inform the consumer that the upload speeds are NOT proportional to the download speed.
>> >>
>> >> P.P.S. I ran the internet connection at my "office" aka cafe I like and they get 38.23 Mbit down and 7 Mbit up. Consistently.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Nate Carlson wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> which speedtest engine is faulty?
>> >>>
>> >>> The rates that the providers quote for speeds (for ADSL at least) are the
>> >>> maximum rates that your line can sync up at. You may be sync'ing at that
>> >>> speed, or at lower speeds (your DSL modem/router should be able to show
>> >>> those stats.) Because of overheads, you will never get the exact speed
>> >>> they advertise - it will be slightly lower.. if you read the fine print it
>> >>> generally states that the speeds are maximum, not guaranteed, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> I do agree that it looks like you are getting horrible speeds with Qwest -
>> >>> it could be a number of factors (ie, poor line conditions on your end, a
>> >>> dslam without enough backhaul connectivity, oversold connectivty at
>> >>> Qwest.net, etc); you could try a different ISP if you want to keep DSL
>> >>> (since you are on an ADSL tier you can pick your ISP), which would
>> >>> eliminate Qwest.net from the picture.. but from my view if you are happy
>> >>> with cable then keep it!  :)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> >>>> All of this is BEYOND my point: Their speedtest engine is faulty. It
>> >>>> claims speeds that it is *not* producing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I checked my cable line and the DSL line against a number of other test
>> >>>> providers, here are the results:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Speedtest        Speakeasy       bandwidthplace  auditmypc.com   internetfrog    DSLreports      toast.net       visualware.com  testinternetspeed       whatsmyip.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Down     Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up      Down    Up
>> >>>> Qwest    2.59    0.72    4.17    0.73    2.67    0.70    18.26   0.76    0.80    0.60    2.88    0.69    0.75
>> >>>> 2.09     0.72    1.88    0.70    6.62    0.71
>> >>>> Comcast  22.01   2.66    5.10    2.62    12.23   2.35    20.87   3.51    5.09    1.53    22.15   2.55    4.56
>> >>>> 9.37     2.58    1.71    2.02    20.67   2.46
>> >>>>
>> >>>> All speeds are reported in Megabits (Mbps), some are calculated from Kilobits per second.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Ryan
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Nate Carlson wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Just a bit of clarification - 20mb/896kbps is *not* FIOS - Qwest
>> >>>>> advertises this as "Fiber optic fast", but what it really means is that
>> >>>>> they run fiber to the DSLAM that serves your line. 20mbit/896kbit is
>> >>>>> ADSL2+.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Qwest does offer VDSL in certain parts of the metro, which is available at
>> >>>>> speeds of 40mbit/20mbit, 40mbit/5mbit, and also adds a 5mbit upstream
>> >>>>> option to 20mbit, 12mbit, and 7mbit tiers. If you got 896k upstream,
>> >>>>> however, you are ADSL2+, not VDSL.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As far as I know Qwest does not have any plans to roll out a real
>> >>>>> fiber-to-the-home option - it's all fiber to the 'neighborhood' with
>> >>>>> various technologies running over copper to deliver the service.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> (Of course, Qwest does offer fiber services to businesses, but it's quite
>> >>>>> a bit more money than we're talking for DSL.. *grin*)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> >>>>>> 20Mbit. Which comes with an unreported upload cap of 896Kbps.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> But I'm probably calling them on Monday to tell them to pick everything up and take it back; Ran my own speed test through speedtest.net and the reported download speed was 3.2-4.5 Mbps. Same website on my cable modem reported 25+ Mbps on download.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Ryan
>> >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Donovan wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I'll probably only end up cutting one of the two cable internet lines into my apartment...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> 16Mbit download -- pretty nice
>> >>>>>>>> 600Kbit upload -- not so nice
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ran a speed test on our "public" cable line at home and got 30Mbit down and 3Mbit up.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Setting up a static IP on the Qwest website appears to be nearly impossible, that's a shock.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Ryan
>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Which package did you get?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> Donovan Niesen
>> >>>>>>>
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