On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Mike Miller wrote: > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Mr. B-o-B wrote: > >> I have started using Alpine to my Usenet activities, and I cannot for >> the life of me figure out how to make it default to bottom post when I >> reply to a message. >> >> Any ideas how to config Alpine to when I reply the cursor will goto the >> end of the message, and not start at line 1? > > > I am on the Alpine list and can ask there. They reminded my of the "_CURSORPOS_" token that can be placed in the signature file. It's a good way to deal with this. We had a few messages about it back in November 2008. See below. Also look for CURSORPOS here: Note that an Alpine documentation pages on signatures has this token misspelled as CURSORSPOS. Apparently there are a gazillion of these secret keywords: http://saul.baizman.net/node/63 Mike Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:02:29 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Miller To: Alpine Forum List <alpine-info at u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Alpine-info] Reply Top Posting On Thu, 27 Nov 2008, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, M.RossARR wrote: > >> Pine & Alpine offers the signature to be at the top or bottom via: >> Setup-Config >> [ -Reply Preferences- ] >> [X] signature-at-bottom >> >> I will assume most users set it for bottom! Makes sense! >> >> Yet when reply is triggered, the cursor is always found at the top >> waiting to type, so off goes the writer top posting! It's natural! >> > > If you include in your signature the special token _CURSORPOS_, you can > choose where the cursor is placed when replying. > > Using what seems to be your signature as an example, you would change it to > everything between the lines of hyphens here: > > --------------------------------------- > _CURSORPOS_ > > -- > The Best to You & Yours, > M. Ross All Rights Reserved > mrossarr at nixsyspaus.org > --------------------------------------- > > Combine it with the signature-at-bottom option, and it should behave as > you want. Nobody replied to the above, so I'm resending it in the hope that it will be noticed. It is amazing what features of Alpine have been hidden from me for many years -- maybe I just need to look harder. The _CURSORPOS_ token is one of them. Mike Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:18:17 -0600 (CST) From: Mike Miller To: Chaitat Piriyastit Cc: Alpine Forum List <alpine-info at u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Alpine-info] Reply Top Posting On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Chaitat Piriyastit wrote: > Err... I am not sure if my post is related or not. But what I do in my > daily life is to create 4 files in my home directory: > > .s1 .s2 .s3 .s4 > > These are all my signature in plain text file. And I place my signature > by CTRL+R .s[1-4] in the composer area. It's a little off of the original topic, but I also do what you do. I start with the cursor on top and I edit the message I am replying to before attaching my message (as above: I trimmed off a few unneeded things). This time I am not attaching a signature. For people who want bottom posting and a signature, the _CURSORPOS_ token looks like an excellent solution to me -- and it requires no modification of the code. If they don't want a signature at all, but they want bottom posting, they can create a signature that consists only of _CURSORPOS_ and possibly some newlines. They just need to enable "Signature at Bottom" in the "Reply Preferences" section of Setup -> Config. [ Reply Preferences ] [X] Signature at Bottom So I think Alpine already does what people want it to do. Mike