On a completely unrelated note, I just realized I started going to TCLUG meetings almost exactly 10 years ago. Clay led the first one I ever went to. I felt like a n00b there, because there were people who'd beeing using linux since the days it fit onto a single 5.25" floppy. ;) Ah, nostalgia. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com