I got the new Palm Pre when it came out on Saturday. As luck would have it, my wife's phone failed, so we had to get another Sprint phone to replace it, so I found out about the Pre and got one for her and another for me. Before the Pre I was using the Treo 600 for 5.5 years and it still worked great. The Pre is taking things to a much higher level though: multitouch 320x480 display with 24-bit color, WiFi, EVDO, Bluetooth, a keypad, beautiful small design, very nice apps and a new OS called "Palm webOS" that allows developers to use HTML, CSS and JavaScript (so expect a lot of apps to come out soon). Anyway, I don't work for Palm or Spring or know anyone who does. So far I like this product though. One bad thing -- it sometimes refuses to take a charge, it doesn't warn about this, and you have to restart it to fix the problem. I don't know how often that happens, but it happened to me and to another guy who attended a training seminar with me (and about 15 attending). The new webOS is not Free Software, but I guess it has some Linux inside and thus free components. I am interested in using the Pre to connect to Linux boxes via SSH. If you see an app that can do this, let me know. Apparently the Pre can run old PalmOS software using an API called "Classic" (which costs $30, but I think I need it): http://www.motionapps.com/classic/ The truth is, I really wanted to start doing something with OpenMoko, but every time I checked, they seemed to be way behind and not really ready for me. I'll be keeping my eye on them. Feel free to write to me off of the list if you are using one of these Pre phones or are interested in them. It would be fun to hear from local users. Mike