As it happens, Visi is going to be the guest speaker at a TCPC users
group meeting tonight.  See information below

 

General Meeting 

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 

at 7:00 PM 

 

VISI:

The Area's Largest Locally-Owned ISP

Location: Summit Place

8505 Flying Cloud Drive 

Eden Prairie, MN 55344

 

 

The February meeting will feature VISI, Minnesota's largest
locally-owned Internet hosting and connectivity provider. Founded in
1994 VISI offers ISP services (Internet Services Provider), colocation,
managed hosting and other Internet connectivity services. VISI serves
more than 10,000 business and residential customers throughout
Minnesota. Recently VISI moved their operations from the Plymouth
building in downtown Minneapolis to a newly remodeled updated location
in Eden Prairie, only a few miles from Summit Place where our group
holds its monthly meetings. Our presenters will include Chris Miller a
VISI account executive and Johnny Hatch, a VISI product manager.

 

Learn about SPAM, botnets and Security problems including best practices
and products from the ISP side of the business. What are ISPs doing to
combat the growing volume of SPAM? What are the best security practices
used by ISPs these days? Is your computer a Zombie and you are clueless?
What are the best practices members should use to minimize spam? What is
managed hosting and what are the benefits to you as a possible user? An
overview will be presented of their new Eden Prairie Tier 3 Data Center,
including data back up and data security. VISI will provide all
attending a souvenir. Bring your friends and questions and plan to
attend

 

 

 

Larry

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org
[mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Dan Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:05 PM
To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another

 

I am looking at moving my service to Visi and bundle it with Qwest.  The
main reason is, though I have yet to be effected by this, I am dabbling
more with linux and unix in my spare time and will eventually be
finishing a server that I would like to actually use on the internet
with out having my service locked down, because of port restrictions. 

My question to TCLUG, is... Has anyone heard or experanced isseus with
Visi & or Qwest?  I do live in Downtown St.Paul (Actually 4 blocks from
the visi data center), so I am figuring that I'm kinda trapped for ISP's
on the cable side of things.

Thanks!!

-
Dan

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: comcast strikes another (Curtis Griesel)
  2. Re: comcast strikes another (Larry R. Pint)
  3. Re: comcast strikes another (Scott Dier)
  4. Re: comcast strikes another (Curtis Griesel)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:59:43 -0600
From: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another
To: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>, TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
Message-ID:
       <7f246bf00902101059t27dbb986h1574fc685d6be71c at mail.gmail.com>
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Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere?

Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in 8601
Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will see
that
the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per month
cable TV subscription.  If you try to order it without cable service
they
charge you $60 per month.  I know, because that is what I pay.  I don't
watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60 per
month
for marginal broadband service.  And I have to struggle to keep it at
$60
per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor question,
they
try to upsell me to a more expensive package.

If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per month
on
my block, please let me know.  For now, I'm under the thumb of the
Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly.

Curits

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote:

> Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without
video,
> there is a 1mbps/384k tier available.  I believe its ~$25/mo.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel
<cwgriesel at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone
>> infrastructure is too old.  Comcast has a monopoly on broadband
service, and
>> residential service starts at $60 per month.  Of course this is not
all
>> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on
>> broadband access for Bloomington.  But I suspect the city is in
cahoots with
>> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and
>> infrastructure from Comcast.  I wonder what other benefits the
council gets
>> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per month
for
>> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs
right now.
>>
>>
>
> --
> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:23:18 -0600
From: "Larry R. Pint" <Larry.Pint at ntuminc.com>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another
To: "TCLUG List" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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I was involved in bring cable to New Prague many years ago.



In addition to granting the city one or more channels for their own use
(it costs the cable company little or nothing to do this), the cable
service provider normally pays the city a franchise fee.  It's probably
listed seperatly on your monthly bill.



It may also pay a fee for use of any utility poles that it uses for it's
cabling throughout the city.



Larry



-----Original Message-----
From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org
[mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Griesel
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:10 AM
To: TCLUG List
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another



We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone
infrastructure is too old.  Comcast has a monopoly on broadband service,
and residential service starts at $60 per month.  Of course this is not
all Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on
broadband access for Bloomington.  But I suspect the city is in cahoots
with Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and
infrastructure from Comcast.  I wonder what other benefits the council
gets from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per
month for their marginal internet services, but that's the state of
affairs right now.

Curtis

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Justin Krejci <jus at krytosvirus.com>
wrote:

> I believe that they lie to customers about their policies.  They offer
a
> service that they do not provide.  They also increased my monthly fees
> quite massively in the past few years.  Maybe the service got faster,
but
> I didn't care.  I'd rather have it slower and pay less, but they
didnt'
> ask.  So of course I am seeking other providers.



DSL - slower but cheaper plus you have a wider choice of ISP in most
areas.



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:56:57 -0600
From: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another
To: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com>, TCLUG List
       <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
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You call them and ask for the economy tier, it should be on the rate
card
you get every year (usually alongside the 'weve increased your prices
mail')

The website is worthless, they don't advertise half the options there.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Curtis Griesel
<cwgriesel at gmail.com>wrote:

> Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere?
>
> Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in
8601
> Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will
see that
> the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per
month
> cable TV subscription.  If you try to order it without cable service
they
> charge you $60 per month.  I know, because that is what I pay.  I
don't
> watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60 per
month
> for marginal broadband service.  And I have to struggle to keep it at
$60
> per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor question,
they
> try to upsell me to a more expensive package.
>
> If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per
month on
> my block, please let me know.  For now, I'm under the thumb of the
> Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly.
>
> Curits
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote:
>
>> Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without
video,
>> there is a 1mbps/384k tier available.  I believe its ~$25/mo.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel
<cwgriesel at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone
>>> infrastructure is too old.  Comcast has a monopoly on broadband
service, and
>>> residential service starts at $60 per month.  Of course this is not
all
>>> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on
>>> broadband access for Bloomington.  But I suspect the city is in
cahoots with
>>> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and
>>> infrastructure from Comcast.  I wonder what other benefits the
council gets
>>> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per month
for
>>> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs
right now.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
>>
>
>


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:50:45 -0600
From: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another
To: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it.  Ya know, they don't even offer
and
"economy tier" when you call to ask for service -- maybe you have to ask
for
it explicitly.  And if they only put in on the rate card, how is a new
subscriber supposed to know it exists?  You don't get a rate card until
after you subscribe.  Obviously they are trying to hide it.

I'll look into it and let you know what I find out.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote:

> You call them and ask for the economy tier, it should be on the rate
card
> you get every year (usually alongside the 'weve increased your prices
mail')
>
> The website is worthless, they don't advertise half the options there.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Curtis Griesel
<cwgriesel at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere?
>>
>> Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in
8601
>> Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will
see that
>> the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per
month
>> cable TV subscription.  If you try to order it without cable service
they
>> charge you $60 per month.  I know, because that is what I pay.  I
don't
>> watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60
per month
>> for marginal broadband service.  And I have to struggle to keep it at
$60
>> per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor
question, they
>> try to upsell me to a more expensive package.
>>
>> If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per
month
>> on my block, please let me know.  For now, I'm under the thumb of the
>> Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly.
>>
>> Curits
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote:
>>
>>> Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without
video,
>>> there is a 1mbps/384k tier available.  I believe its ~$25/mo.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel
<cwgriesel at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone
>>>> infrastructure is too old.  Comcast has a monopoly on broadband
service, and
>>>> residential service starts at $60 per month.  Of course this is not
all
>>>> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on
>>>> broadband access for Bloomington.  But I suspect the city is in
cahoots with
>>>> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and
>>>> infrastructure from Comcast.  I wonder what other benefits the
council gets
>>>> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per
month for
>>>> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs
right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>
>
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