I am looking at moving my service to Visi and bundle it with Qwest. The main reason is, though I have yet to be effected by this, I am dabbling more with linux and unix in my spare time and will eventually be finishing a server that I would like to actually use on the internet with out having my service locked down, because of port restrictions. My question to TCLUG, is... Has anyone heard or experanced isseus with Visi & or Qwest? I do live in Downtown St.Paul (Actually 4 blocks from the visi data center), so I am figuring that I'm kinda trapped for ISP's on the cable side of things. Thanks!! - Dan On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: comcast strikes another (Curtis Griesel) > 2. Re: comcast strikes another (Larry R. Pint) > 3. Re: comcast strikes another (Scott Dier) > 4. Re: comcast strikes another (Curtis Griesel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:59:43 -0600 > From: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another > To: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name>, TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <7f246bf00902101059t27dbb986h1574fc685d6be71c at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere? > > Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in 8601 > Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will see > that > the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per month > cable TV subscription. If you try to order it without cable service they > charge you $60 per month. I know, because that is what I pay. I don't > watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60 per > month > for marginal broadband service. And I have to struggle to keep it at $60 > per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor question, they > try to upsell me to a more expensive package. > > If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per month on > my block, please let me know. For now, I'm under the thumb of the > Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly. > > Curits > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote: > > > Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without video, > > there is a 1mbps/384k tier available. I believe its ~$25/mo. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone > >> infrastructure is too old. Comcast has a monopoly on broadband service, > and > >> residential service starts at $60 per month. Of course this is not all > >> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on > >> broadband access for Bloomington. But I suspect the city is in cahoots > with > >> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and > >> infrastructure from Comcast. I wonder what other benefits the council > gets > >> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per month for > >> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs right > now. > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20090210/2fcbfa27/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:23:18 -0600 > From: "Larry R. Pint" <Larry.Pint at ntuminc.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another > To: "TCLUG List" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > < > AD1913F70C219A458F44131CC9E91BA601BCAB2A at exch01.internal.ntuminc.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I was involved in bring cable to New Prague many years ago. > > > > In addition to granting the city one or more channels for their own use > (it costs the cable company little or nothing to do this), the cable > service provider normally pays the city a franchise fee. It's probably > listed seperatly on your monthly bill. > > > > It may also pay a fee for use of any utility poles that it uses for it's > cabling throughout the city. > > > > Larry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Griesel > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:10 AM > To: TCLUG List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another > > > > We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone > infrastructure is too old. Comcast has a monopoly on broadband service, > and residential service starts at $60 per month. Of course this is not > all Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on > broadband access for Bloomington. But I suspect the city is in cahoots > with Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and > infrastructure from Comcast. I wonder what other benefits the council > gets from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per > month for their marginal internet services, but that's the state of > affairs right now. > > Curtis > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Justin Krejci <jus at krytosvirus.com> > wrote: > > > I believe that they lie to customers about their policies. They offer > a > > service that they do not provide. They also increased my monthly fees > > quite massively in the past few years. Maybe the service got faster, > but > > I didn't care. I'd rather have it slower and pay less, but they > didnt' > > ask. So of course I am seeking other providers. > > > > DSL - slower but cheaper plus you have a wider choice of ISP in most > areas. > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20090210/2fc1cb6f/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:56:57 -0600 > From: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another > To: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com>, TCLUG List > <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <51d20ae60902101156k2f819db6g36841289eff349f7 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You call them and ask for the economy tier, it should be on the rate card > you get every year (usually alongside the 'weve increased your prices > mail') > > The website is worthless, they don't advertise half the options there. > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere? > > > > Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in 8601 > > Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will see > that > > the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per month > > cable TV subscription. If you try to order it without cable service they > > charge you $60 per month. I know, because that is what I pay. I don't > > watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60 per > month > > for marginal broadband service. And I have to struggle to keep it at $60 > > per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor question, > they > > try to upsell me to a more expensive package. > > > > If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per month > on > > my block, please let me know. For now, I'm under the thumb of the > > Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly. > > > > Curits > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote: > > > >> Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without > video, > >> there is a 1mbps/384k tier available. I believe its ~$25/mo. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com > >wrote: > >> > >>> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone > >>> infrastructure is too old. Comcast has a monopoly on broadband > service, and > >>> residential service starts at $60 per month. Of course this is not all > >>> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on > >>> broadband access for Bloomington. But I suspect the city is in cahoots > with > >>> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and > >>> infrastructure from Comcast. I wonder what other benefits the council > gets > >>> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per month > for > >>> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs right > now. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20090210/cf34c6ce/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:50:45 -0600 > From: Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] comcast strikes another > To: Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > Cc: TCLUG List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <7f246bf00902101250i7f05088fg33e19a6654bf148c at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it. Ya know, they don't even offer and > "economy tier" when you call to ask for service -- maybe you have to ask > for > it explicitly. And if they only put in on the rate card, how is a new > subscriber supposed to know it exists? You don't get a rate card until > after you subscribe. Obviously they are trying to hide it. > > I'll look into it and let you know what I find out. > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote: > > > You call them and ask for the economy tier, it should be on the rate card > > you get every year (usually alongside the 'weve increased your prices > mail') > > > > The website is worthless, they don't advertise half the options there. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> Do you know about some secret plan that is not advertised somewhere? > >> > >> Go to www.comcast.com, click on Shop / High-speed internet, type in > 8601 > >> Thomas Ave S, 55431, which is my block in Bloomington, and you will see > that > >> the cheapest package is $45 per month, but that requires a $15 per month > >> cable TV subscription. If you try to order it without cable service > they > >> charge you $60 per month. I know, because that is what I pay. I don't > >> watch TV so the cable TV is irrelevant for me -- I have to pay $60 per > month > >> for marginal broadband service. And I have to struggle to keep it at > $60 > >> per month because everytime I call Comcast, even for a minor question, > they > >> try to upsell me to a more expensive package. > >> > >> If there is some secret promotional code get broadband for $25 per month > >> on my block, please let me know. For now, I'm under the thumb of the > >> Comcast/Bloomington City broadband monopoly. > >> > >> Curits > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> wrote: > >> > >>> Residential service is available for less than $60 a month without > video, > >>> there is a 1mbps/384k tier available. I believe its ~$25/mo. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Curtis Griesel <cwgriesel at gmail.com > >wrote: > >>> > >>>> We can't get DSL in my area of Bloomington because the phone > >>>> infrastructure is too old. Comcast has a monopoly on broadband > service, and > >>>> residential service starts at $60 per month. Of course this is not > all > >>>> Comcast's fault, the city council could take a little leadership on > >>>> broadband access for Bloomington. But I suspect the city is in > cahoots with > >>>> Comcast because they get their community-access cable services and > >>>> infrastructure from Comcast. I wonder what other benefits the council > gets > >>>> from Comcast that they make us continue to pay Comcast $60 per month > for > >>>> their marginal internet services, but that's the state of affairs > right now. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Scott Dier <scott at dier.name> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20090210/172b3466/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 9 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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