-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Sunny wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:39 PM, J Cruit <j at packetgod.com> wrote: >> >>> So he wants FreeBSD to restrict and close off the system to limit what >>> people can do with it? Umm.. what? >>> >>> I guess that is perhaps the difference between free and open? >> He does not want anything. He just says, that he himself can not promote >> FreeBSD because their decision contradicts with his ideas. >> >> So, I do not see it as restriction. You most probably would not promote >> eating raw meet, but it does not restrict me in any way to order rare >> done stake. :) > > > Taking that analogy a step farther -- Suppose you had a friend who wanted > to promote vegetarian food, and your friend owned a restaurant. You went > to your friend's restaurant and saw that he had steak on the menu. So you > told your friend, "I'm sorry that I cannot recommend your restaurant to > people because I am trying to promote vegetarianism and your menu has > steak on it!" Your friend thinks it is important to give people options. > So you continue -- "Look, I don't mind if you serve steak, just take it > off of the menu so that most people will order veggie dishes." > > In the analogy, the restaurant is FreeBSD, the menu is the ports system, > the steak is a proprietary program and the veggie dishes are FOSS > programs. > > Mike What if he had vegetarian dishes on the menu as well as steak? And believed in giving people the power to choose? You can get a vegetarian meal here....or you can get a steak. Pick what you want. If the vegetarian can't recommend the restaurant then, does he not then stand in the position of wanting to limit other people's choices? Sure, the nvidia binary drivers are in the FreeBSD ports tree. No one is forcing you to use them. You're more than free to use the Xorg open source nv driver. Where I start to lose tolerance in when you tell me I can't use the nvidia binary drivers either. Or have to jump through hoops to use them. Now you're infringing on my right to choose. I also have to point out that you seem to consider yourself the only person who can decide what RMS means when he says things. Anyone else is demanded to provide "proof" - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFI4oi4JvkB8SevrssRAlEyAJ94g4eN2WgztUMXHrSp4I9YoIv5XACfSgdL enC0q8jY+p6og96xADO3RIg= =R+/m -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----