Why is it so damned hard to connect to the internet using Linux? That's one of the biggest beefs I have about the OS. I've currently got Sabayon 3.3and can't connect. I tried to burn an ISO of 3.4f with burn cdcc & could not do it. If anyone has the courage to call me on the phone, I would really appreciate it. I want to use Linux but the problem of Internet connection always has me saying screw it!! Please advise. Danny J. -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org] On Behalf Of tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:00 PM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: tclug-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to tclug-list at mn-linux.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org You can reach the person managing the list at tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: smtp auth (admin at lctn.org) 2. TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Jeremy) 3. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Florin Iucha) 4. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Jeremy) 5. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Elvedin Trnjanin) 6. Stopping e-mail terrorism! Was: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (Florin Iucha) 7. Re: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm (jason reynolds) 8. Re: smtp auth (Dave Carlson) 9. Re: smtp auth (Jima) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:33:46 -0500 (CDT) From: admin at lctn.org Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <32328.64.8.149.210.1192041226.squirrel at lctn.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > No, source-based installs don't put entries in the rpmdb. You might be > better off trying to rebuild the sendmail SRPM from, say, Fedora 7 (which > has 8.14.1). > That is exactly what I attempted to do, but it complained about tcp_wrappers, and tcp_wrappers complained about other dependencies, etc... It was the Fedora 7 sendmail srpm I was using. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:38:28 -0500 From: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> Subject: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Cc: tclug-announce at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <200710101338.28853.tclug at lizakowski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics or things to discuss, just let me know. NOTE: there is a room change. This is a smaller room in the main part of the building. Date: Wed, Oct 10th Time: 6:30 - 8:00 pm University of Minnesota Minneapolis campus, EE/CSci Building , Room: 3-110 200 Union St SE, Minneapolis 55455 > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 11:05:53 pm Munir Nassar wrote: > > On 10/3/07, Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> wrote: > > > If you're seriously offering, we can do it on Wed the 10th. I just > > > need to reserve the room. Up for it? > > > > i'm up for it. tell me where and when. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:04:12 -0500 From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm To: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <20071010200412.GE7854 at iucha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 01:38:28PM -0500, Jeremy wrote: > The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! > > Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics or > things to discuss, just let me know. Then top posting! And trimming headers. I propose talking about thread hijacking. florin -- Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition. http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20071010/b3 691864/attachment-0001.pgp ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:11:21 -0500 From: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm To: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <200710101511.21123.tclug at lizakowski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > I propose talking about thread hijacking. How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line intact to promote the original idea? :) Jeremy > > The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! > > > > Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics or > > things to discuss, just let me know. > > Then top posting! > > And trimming headers. > > I propose talking about thread hijacking. > > florin ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:36:07 -0500 From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm To: tclug at lizakowski.com Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <470D37B7.1080607 at umn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Someone should take especially good notes for me. I wanted to go but as with every Wednesday, I'll be in night class from 6 to 9. Jeremy wrote: >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> > > How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line intact to > promote the original idea? > > :) > > Jeremy > > >>> The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! >>> >>> Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics or >>> things to discuss, just let me know. >>> >> Then top posting! >> >> And trimming headers. >> >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. >> >> florin >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:44:40 -0500 From: Florin Iucha <florin at iucha.net> Subject: [tclug-list] Stopping e-mail terrorism! Was: TCLUG Meeting Announcement: Tonight, Wed Oct 10, 6:30 - 8:00 pm To: Jeremy <tclug at lizakowski.com> Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <20071010204440.GF7854 at iucha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:11:21PM -0500, Jeremy wrote: > > I propose talking about thread hijacking. > > How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line intact to > promote the original idea? Sure, we can go as deep as you want 8^) florin -- Bruce Schneier expects the Spanish Inquisition. http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/163 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wanted to go but as > with every Wednesday, I'll be in night class from 6 to 9. > > Jeremy wrote: > >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. > >> > > > > How about replying to a thread hijacker, leaving the Subject line intact > to > > promote the original idea? > > > > :) > > > > Jeremy > > > > > >>> The next TCLUG meeting is tonight! > >>> > >>> Munir will be talking about iptables. If anyone else has any topics > or > >>> things to discuss, just let me know. > >>> > >> Then top posting! > >> > >> And trimming headers. > >> > >> I propose talking about thread hijacking. > >> > >> florin > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20071010/14 a15a2b/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:51:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dave Carlson" <thecubic at thecubic.net> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth To: admin at lctn.org Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <15942.163.231.6.86.1192071061.squirrel at castor.thecubic.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > That is exactly what I attempted to do, but it complained about > tcp_wrappers, and tcp_wrappers complained about other dependencies, etc... > > It was the Fedora 7 sendmail srpm I was using. You're in a bit of a corner here. CentOS/RHEL is designed not to have the cutting-edge software and instead is centered on version stability, like all enterprise distributions are. Virtually anything you do to bolt on the newer sendmail will send you into version-dependency hell (see last sentence for why) or be done outside the package management system and will be overwritten when CentOS/RHEL updates sendmail and potentially cause other runtime problems. Definitely don't try what ESR did and try to fight rpm (--force --nodeps) - I guarantee it will win :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dave Carlson <thecubic at thecubic.net> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:01:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Jima <jima at beer.tclug.org> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] smtp auth To: Dave Carlson <thecubic at thecubic.net> Cc: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710102352130.4486 at beer.tclug.org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Dave Carlson wrote: > You're in a bit of a corner here. CentOS/RHEL is designed not to have > the cutting-edge software and instead is centered on version stability, > like all enterprise distributions are. Bingo. RHEL/CentOS are (IMO) good at what they do, Fedora is good at what it does. Mixing and matching gets a little problematic unless you're a packaging guru. > Virtually anything you do to bolt on the newer sendmail will send you > into version-dependency hell (see last sentence for why) or be done > outside the package management system and will be overwritten when > CentOS/RHEL updates sendmail and potentially cause other runtime > problems. You're half right here, except CentOS 4 will never update sendmail as far as 8.14. Heck, even CentOS 5 is only up to 8.13.8; it'd probably be until 5.1 or 6 before it gets close to endangering the RPM, and even then, that'd probably be what he'd want (unless he's patching in extra functionality, which he hasn't mentioned). Just an off-the-cuff guess; the Fedora 7 sendmail SRPM probably has a BuildReq for tcp_wrappers-devel. tcp_wrapper-devel was split off between FC6 and F7 -- before F7, the functionality was in the main tcp_wrappers RPM. Removing that -devel might get past that hurdle (although another one might take its place). > Definitely don't try what ESR did and try to fight rpm (--force --nodeps) > - I guarantee it will win :) Number one rule if you're thinking about using --force or --nodeps: You're probably doing something wrong. Jima ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 ****************************************** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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