> ---------------------------------------------- > (1) Location, location, location -- it's not in the heart of the > worst traffic congestion area during that time slot > (2) Free Parking > > Arguments for meeting @ UofM, rather than TIES > ---------------------------------------------- > (1) I am a UofM student, or live in the City, so it is more convenient for > me TIES is in close proximity to the U. Traffic congestion is similar for most travellers, so location is not it's advantage. Parking is an advantage. I see that as the only advantage. > The consensus appears to be that TCLUG is not specifically a student > group (presumably also not a group > geared toward City dwellers), so it seems that the former arguments > hold more water than the latter. This is > assuming, of course, that the facts that have been presented on both > sides have been accurate and complete. > > I don't think anybody is threatening a boycott of any sort, and I > don't think it's fair to call peoples' arguments > "fluff" because you happen to disagree with them. Everyone is > entitled to their opinion. Here are some of the things I call fluff: The argument was made that the U is irrelevant, TCLUG is beyond help, and TIES is superior in essentially all ways. Those are sweeping generalities. I could dismantle those arguments, but I decliined in favor of something more brief and getting to the point. What I don't think is fluff: the argument that the U was not cooperative with previous organizations. I don't agree with the conclusions, but I think that's the reason we are discussing this subject. If you search the list, we've discussed some of this before. I don't have time to do that at the moment, as I'm leaving the office for a meeting, but I maintain that my objections are rational. > Here's hoping we come up with a rational outcome that is in the best > interest of TCLUG as a whole! > > Bijoy > > On Nov 8, 2007 9:13 AM, Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> wrote: > > Chris Schumann wrote: > > >> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:14:47 -0600 > > >> From: "Chuck Cole" <cncole at earthlink.net> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Really great "big pipe" internet wired and WiFi connections, since > > >> that's what TIES is all about. TIES provides internet and other > > >> online support for MN schools and teachers. Large and multiple > > >> meeting spaces, well-equipped - probably since they do some training > > >> for teachers also. > > > > > > I hope it's not just me, but I've never seen TCLUG as a student group. > > > > Neither have I, mainly because Wednesday nights are nights when most > > students have night class so I wouldn't expect many to be present during > > the meetings. In my 5 semesters at the U so far, I've never had a free > > Wednesday night. > > > > Also related to this, if classes are still held at the time of the > > meetings, isn't parking a bit harder to find if you don't want to use > > the ramp? I imagine it would be better if the meetings are held during > > the weekend but I'm sure there is a very good reason for the current > > time slot and location. If it's convenient for the most people than any > > other day, then I certainly wont complain. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list