Most of the arguments sound like fluff covering up the real argument. The core complaint seems to be that UofM didn't play ball in the past, with whatever was trying to be accomplished. It then seems presumed that any future dealings with the U will result in the same results. The rest of the complaints seem to be attempts to persuade others that the U is bad. Then add a promotional call for people to bail and hang out elsewhere. In some senses, it feels like we are being asked to extend a boycott of some form, due to former issues from a different organization. It's good to be aware of issues, and learn from them. But in my experience, the U has been very kind and helpful so far. Perhaps if TCLUG sought bigtime corporate sponsorship we would run into these issues, but I don't think open source is a good match for such corporate influence. Jeremy On Thursday 08 November 2007 7:18:58 am Chris Schumann wrote: > > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:14:47 -0600 > > From: "Chuck Cole" <cncole at earthlink.net> > > > > Really great "big pipe" internet wired and WiFi connections, since that's > > what TIES is all about. TIES provides internet and other online support > > for MN schools and teachers. Large and multiple meeting spaces, > > well-equipped - probably since they do some training for teachers also. > > I hope it's not just me, but I've never seen TCLUG as a student group. > And by that reasoning, TIES mission would not align with this group. > > Unless, by using Linux and advocating it, we all become teachers of a sort. > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list