So I ran the Ubuntu installation a 3rd time and just let the thing go (screen rolling on 3 terms 1, 2, and 3) The install seamed to complete with a rolling screen that looked like pressing the space bar to complete... Then a "q" to quit the text mode installer while it rolled... Then gnome started!?! I logged in just fine. My Linksys Wireless G does NOT work... I'll have to look at that... It says it's active but the lights never come on and no traffic on the WAP.. It is doing an update at the moment but it seams to work. Go figure ? Sam. Mmmmm... Beer... Homer No not that Homer, Homer Simpson!